3 minutes and it was over!! Hardly seems worth it, eh?
Well, our experience has been a bit different (check some threads of a few months ago) but although we'd been "ignored" to some extent, at the end, we couldn't get rid of them!!
It seemed strange, almost surreal to Mrs Ozzie and I, that the E's had the attitude that they were the overlords, as if we should ask permission to do anything, even though we'd had NOTHINMG to do with them for the past few years. The individual elder seems to operate in a belief that he has all the power, and routinely goes back to meet the other elders for a "re-charge" of this (to him) re-assuring power.
I must say I've not yet found anything like it amongst ministers of various faiths here in Oz. Quite unique to the dubs.
So, dear friends on board, enjoy Freedom's ride! How sweet it is!
Cheers, Ozzie