OFFICIAL: Bill Bowen Was DF'ed

by ErieGuy 36 Replies latest watchtower child-abuse

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  avengers

  Hey Erie Guy. Remember your words about posters here?

  all posters here are "unscruptulous LIARS"

  Did I take that out of context? Oh. poor you.
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  ErieGuy

  Avengers:________You may think that it is "cute" for You, DedFool, and your cronies (as well as your multiple identities) to go around INTENTIONALLY spreading LIES about the WTS, but all of YOU are nothing but low-life pieces of SHIT who are so IGNORANT that you can't get it through your double-digit IQ brains that NOTHING HELPS THE WTS MORE than for STUPID EXJWs to post LIES, DECEPTIONS, and MISREPRESENTATIONS which the WTS then uses as their basis to lump all info about them as UNTRUE.__________

  As I have stated previously, YOUR LIES are so VALUABLE to the WTS that they would PAY YOU to publish such IF you weren't already so STUPID as to be doing it for them for free.__________
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  avengers

  You sound like a very nice person, well educated. I just can't see why you are calling us liars.

  First of all I don't lie. Second: persons who are off to calling names are themself not to be trusted. If you can't make your case clear to people then still you don't resolve to name-calling.

  You still haven't made clear why you call us names. You rant and you rave against me, still you keep posting and expect respect?

  I don't know who you are, but all in all you remind me of the Watchtower, whom in all the years have accused others of the things they themselves are guilty of. You sure as hell don't have my trust. You are indeed an erie guy.

  my 2 cents.

  multiple identities

  who? me? Probably WT info. very reliable.
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  Europe

  DedFool, --INTENTIONALLY spreading LIES --low-life pieces of SHIT --IGNORANT --double-digit IQ brains LIES, DECEPTIONS, and MISREPRESENTATIONS --UNTRUE-- LIES-- STUPID

  I think Erie Guy mixed up the subject in his sentences, he is referring to the WTS, not to you Avengers!!! So nothing to worry!;-)
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  winsome

  To: FreeToBeMe,

  So Bill Bowen got df'd ..... personally, I don't see the big deal. Has this guy become something of a 'messiah' for the most recent disfellowshipees? What's the big deal with being df'd anyway? I, like most of the people in this forum negotiated their df'ing with grace, and without buying into the Org's. games. We bucked Org. procedure, and when elders demanded we meet with them for some kangeroo court, we said 'No'. We, each of us individually, removed the power of the Org. by not giving it power over us... and many of us prepared the way for people like Bill Bowen, who can thank their lucky stars that they have 'an issue' they can attached their anger too.

  Bill Bowen now has the 'fellowship' of Silentlambs, and similar forums, and I am pleased for him, as I am for others similarly placed, but don't forget that whilst some of you continued attaching so much importance to Org. doctrine, procedure and philosophy, many of us suffered because of it, and suffered in silence. Fortunately, the 'silence' has now become a deafening roar, but only now have people like Bill Bowen finally heard us. We may be silenced again, we may continue to roar... the 'truth' is the Org. will never be quite the same. However, there will continue to be those who are deaf to the lamb's roar, as many have been up to now.

  I wish Bill Bowen all the best in his efforts. The internet has proved to be a wonderful forum for bringing us all together. But, let's not forget those who have suffered in silence, who thought (and in their minds knew) they were alone, and have either managed, or not, to deal with their pain without the support now afforded those who have access to it. The strength Bill Bowen has is not his own, but is that which has been given him as a gift by those that have preceded him. Let's pray he doesn't misuse that strength in harping upon an issue of little consequence, his disfellowshipping. The silent lambs deserve better.

  FreeToBeMe

  Your post was a masterpiece, soooo masterfully, sooo eloquently stated!

  So insightful, so true. That's why I just wanted to re-quote the post, in its entirety, leaving no words out.

  Unfortunately though, I think your thoughts are so deep, they will go largely unnoticed by those most concerned about the Bill Bowens Saga. Really, we who are appalled by this great injustice, still can't see "beyond the nose on ourr faces", actually. So, I think your words above, will not be fully appreciated or discerned (if ever) for "many moons" because of our own unaffected simplicity and distasteful naivete'.

  You see, most of us here and elsewhere who are acquainted with the "silentlambs" movement, just don't think as deeply about the issues as you obviously do. So, Bill Bowens all of a sudden does become a "messiah" of sorts. As if the WTS has never, ever murdered someone in cold blood before. They must be dreaming! Why I've personnally eye-witnessed "Bill Bowens" type people being disfellowshipped for the last 40 years! And heard of cases like his, even before, that have resulted in the same fate.

  So the disfellowshipment of Bill Bowens of Kentucky is no surprise, by a long shot. But actually to be expected, if you know anything about the operations of the F&DS of Brooklyn, NY. Remember, "disfellowshipment is a loving arrangement", as brother Pevy said on the video tape for the WTS. And the WTS has practiced this special brand of "love" for many years now upon any who would oppose themselves on any subject, no questions asked.

  But like you said, all of sudden, we are shocked! Why, we just can't believe the WTS would treat Bill Bowens that way. We are appalled. What a travesty of justice.

  Pleeeease...give me a break!

  You know, I would think people could put at least, a few facts together by now and come to know a stinking skunk or pole cat when we smell one, namely the wicked WTS. For example, if because of the policies of the WTS on child abuse gets exposed in the press internationally, and the WTS suddenly begins to smell more offensive than ever to the world in general, and if we suddenly sense we sort of smell a spiritual "pole cat" in our midst, namely the WTS itself, then we must reason: there must more things that really "stink" where that came from hidden in the past. If the WTS would be so "cold-blooded" as to disfellowship a guy like Bill Bowens for trying to help get the "pedophile-paradise" problem corrected, and is able to arrest the public's attention as well as JWs undivided attention worldwide to the problem, and then we just conclude, "well we've found one dead body buried in the WTS basement". And if that's all we learn from this, all we get out of this fiasco this, with all of the worldwide attention given to this problem in the press, then we need our heads examined. Because that's certainly not what the world thinks. And neither should we think this too.

  If this is how we think, then regrettably, we have missed the whole point of Bill Bowen's execution, and brave exposing on his part, of the WTS' wrongdoing and mismanagement of people's lives, as the so-called "F&DS". We haven't learned anything at all from this situation. In stead, all of the hard work of Bill Bowens and the painful public execution of himself and others associated with his work, are in vain, since we've missed the major import of his cause and perspectus What his work has clearly accomplished, demonstrated for the entire world to see: Namely that the WTS is a "bunch of stinking crooks", spiritual pole cats that stink real, real bad, posing as the "F&DS". Instead, they are impostors, "wicked shepherds" opposed to all that is good. (Ezekiel 34:1-12)

  If we haven't learned this, we've missed the whole point of this faithful man's execution and life course, everything he stood for, within the walls of the vicious flock-destroying operation called the WTS. To be sure, Bill Bowens lived and died for a worthy cause. But, just as you say, others before him have stood ever so nobly too. Bill Bowens, no, is not alone in his martyrdom, by no means. But do we understand this? Do we get it? I don't think most us who are complaining about how Bill Bowens has been treated really understand this yet.

  Excuse me, but wouldn't it make common sense at least to suggest, there might more WTS "dead bodies" buried somewhere by this raving lunatic organization -- hidden away in it's basement? Wouldn't it make sense to think that there might be more "skeletons in the closet" of the WTS? Doesn't that make sense? Shouldn't we reason there must be more hidden attrocities committed in the past by these cold-blooded killers? You would think we could put that together.

  If we could figure that out, then it would be more reasonable that there must be MORE "Bill Bowens" murdered, sacrificed at the WT altar of Public Relations and Public Image that CAME BEFORE HIM!!!

  Individuals massacred over doctrinal dogma, policies, protocol, you name it.

  If all we see is one "dead body", the silent lambs issue, which is undeniably bad enough, don't get me wrong. But as you suggest, if that is all we see, and not all of the brave people that must been massacred before Bill Bowens, then we missed the main point of this entire situation. We've missed the major opportunity to see, the greater, larger picture of this horrendous situation and/or obvious ramifications also implicated by such a scene. We have missed the real opportunity to excavate and unearth the vast "burial grounds of innocent ones", brutally murdered by the WTS.

  Anyway, great post!

  winsome

  Edited by - winsome on 28 July 2002 11:34:53

  Edited by - winsome on 28 July 2002 11:57:46

  Edited by - winsome on 28 July 2002 12:20:34
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  nita6368

  Ummm...winsome, it's Bill Bowen not Bill Bowens.

  I have known Bill Bowen personally for several years and he knows what liars the wts are, he is aware of there backstabbing and there double talk, he is one of the most intelligent gentleman I have had the pleasure of meeting and personally the df'ing probably doesn't matter. He lost faith in the org along time ago. But now the society has made it virtually impossile for the silentlambs to contact him without fear of punishment.He is fighting for the innocent ones and is df'd while the child molesters are going door to door--- what's wrong with this picture?
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  deddaisy

  I apologize to the posters that responded to this thread with serious intent, and I normally would not post a response that is irrelevant to the topic, but since this "erieguy" insists on calling others "liars," and "Satan's Spawn," etc. and now does so again, I feel he deserves a response from one of the people whom he addressed in his comment.

  Avengers:________You may think that it is "cute" for You, DedFool, and your cronies (as well as your multiple identities) to go around INTENTIONALLY spreading LIES about the WTS, but all of YOU are nothing but low-life pieces of SHIT who are so IGNORANT that you can't get it through your double-digit IQ brains that NOTHING HELPS THE WTS MORE than for STUPID EXJWs to post LIES, DECEPTIONS, and MISREPRESENTATIONS which the WTS then uses as their basis to lump all info about them as UNTRUE. ------ErieGuy

  I guess if anyone would know about "multiple identities," you would.........

  DedHead: .......------MadApostate

  FOOL: You can't PROVE that the WTS has received ONE SINGLE PENNY from their conditional ownership of the Rand Cam Engine Corp stock.-----MadApostate

  DedFOOL:What percentage of you is PURE STUPIDITY and what percentage of you is simply DISHONEST PIECE OF SHIT?-------ErieGuy

  Everytime you "snip-and-paste" this Deceptive BS, YOU PROVE YOURSELF A SATAN IMITATOR!!!----erieguy

  Deddaisy: You certainly didn't use your higher standards in cutting and pasting, nor in analysing the REGI info.-------MadApostate

  OUTLAW:

  YOU (and a LOT of other posters at this site) were KICKED OUT of the WTS because you don't have an honest bone in your body!!!!

  AND DELETING ME OFF HERE WILL NEVER TURN YOU DEMONS INTO ANGELS

  LIVE WITH THAT....SATAN'S SPAWN!!!---------erieguy

  ---------- MadApostate

  And as Mad Apostate (aka Angry XJW) told you - its a big if.-------Hawkaw

  you know, from your comment in this thread pertaining to "STUPID EXJWs," one could take it that you don't care for ex-jws.....that's odd, seeing as you claim to be one........

  Edited by - deddaisy on 1 August 2002 18:4:19