What if the JW's lost 1/2 of their followers?

by Cappuccino OC 23 Replies latest jw friends

  • Cappuccino OC
    Cappuccino OC

    In my humbly opinion, the WTS is afraid of loosing their uncommissioned & unsalaried "sales people". The numbers haven't been realy rising except in Economically Disadvantaged Countires, EDC, also known as 3rd world countires. The countries that report JW growth are the same ones that also report growth of the AIDS epidemic.

    Today two JW's told me, "I can hardly wait for the new system." I then replied, (sheepishly) so let's think of action plan that will help your situation (one - health - other finances) until the "new system'. What can you control now? It made them think & they started brain storming. (I thought smoke would come out of their ears for using their brains to think). Some answers were eating healthier, walking for 20 min. etc, others were updating resume, job hunting & So on.

    Now with the Abuse Scandals the WTS wants to HOLD on to their power doing whatever they can. They are aware that if JW's start doubting they will leave. I've heard time after time that the US contributions greatly help support the "world wide work" aka preaching. It would be so devasting to the WTS corporation even if they lost 1/2 of their followers here in the US. It would cause a HUGE dent in their $$$$ contributions.

    I've made my mommy doubt. I informed her of the WTS & the UN. SHe just got engaged to a "worldy" man. YES!! I think she's on her way out.

    Out of almost 1,000,000 JW's in the US I now have 999,999 to go.

    CAPP

  • abbagail
    abbagail

    That's OK, Capp, I found it!

    That's funny how you got the JWs brains smoking!

    And any single woman in the cong long enough just HAS to end up with a worldly guy... 'cuz there's nothing there for "mature" (older) women. Happened to me, too.

    999,999 to go... you best get busy, eh? :-)

    Thanks for the post.

    Grits

  • Bleep
    Bleep

    Here you go again, trying to label people becouse of the religion they have. At least they know Jehovah's name. And do what Jesus said to do, put away the sword. They don't get AIDS and they don't kill babies. What else can be shown that JW's have Ethics?

  • MrMoe
    MrMoe

    Good point here:

    The countries that report JW growth are the same ones that also report growth of the AIDS epidemic.

    So sad yet so very true. Also, too, many of the younger JW crowd are falling off like flies, and the majority of JW's are those that are rasied in it.

    Kisses,

    Moe

  • ozziepost
    ozziepost

    They don't get AIDS

    HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!! ROTFL

  • searcher
    searcher
    At least they know Jehovah's name.

    Bleep

    Please tell me HOW they know His name, My historical reserch tell's me that the Israelites/Jews said that God's name was to Holy to say and so stopped using it and in time the TRUE pronunciation was lost, so tell me please, how can ANYBODY these day's know what His TRUE name is.

    I agree that JEHOVAH is as good a guess as any, But that could be said for ANY reasonable guess.

    searcher

  • Englishman
    Englishman

    I'll tell you what I think. I think that the WTBTS is expecting to lose a good percentage of it's followers.

    Think about it. 1000's going from Brooklyn, work is being contracted out too. They've lost their charitable status in France, and ex's are grassing them up to other countries about paedophiles, DF'ing and blood.

    They have, IMHO, resigned themselves to mega-losses. Now they are willing, again IMO, to let all but the die-hard dubs go.

    I believe we are about to see a retreat and re-group operation take place. I think that the latest KM, in which it is encouraged to shun one's own DF'd mother, is being read out purely as a "weeding" operation. So many people will object to it after all the failed predictions that I can see a rapid fall in numbers.

    Englishman.

  • witchywoman
    witchywoman

    Good point Cappy!

    It seems to me with the invisible reign of Christ, and all of the so called persecution (uncovering of abuse), that these people should realize for themselves just how close to the end they really are. Are they ready to live only among themselves. The elders would no longer have to answer for all the cover ups.

    These people should be creating a community within its own community. Say businesses that mostly have jws as clients. They should be more tightly knit, with only each other to watch each others children, (guess thats a no no). Remember this is not a religion by jw standards, it is a way of life that the gb should be preparing all their flock to be prepared for. This is supposed to be viewed as a new government. Are they really preparing to build that new earth now? They should be a shining example of how they are pulling together and already be that new government by becoming that new earth that has an easy time of making that transition to when only jws walk this earth.

    They should be bursting at the seams with new recruits because of these bible prophesies. They should be rejoicing all around the world, to see these prophesies unfolding.

    Isn`t that the responsiblity of the gb to lead them into Jehovahs paradisaic government? Isn`t the gb supposed to be Jehovahs mouthpeice? Isn`t that time even more at hand? What are they wating for? Does that mean that Jehovah is letting his people down?

    I do not feel that what has ever been dispensed by these group of men has ever helped anyone to deal with living forever, only for living in the moment with an ideal look at the future, instead of a solid one.

    I can not believe that I went along with this load of crap for as long as I did.

    witchywoman

  • Mimilly
    Mimilly

    Witchywoman - Your post blew me away hon. I sat here reading it over and over. THAT angle had never occured to me before. You've hit the nail on the head.

    You mentioned 'it's a way of life' to them, not a religion. Interesting oxymoron. It's only a way of life in that it rules their life, actions, decisions, time. But they will never admit to it being a religion,let alone a cult - because that would lump them in with worldly groups whom they want no part of. When I think of a religion that is a way of life - I think of the Quakers. (and they don't shun or look down on outsiders) They are self-sufficient and not business or money orientated. I don't know their beliefs, yet I know they ARE a community, and should the 'end' come, are far more prepared than the JWs, who depend on technology and money.

    This leads to another point you made. The JWs becoming more tightly knit due to the end being so near. This idea escapes them - which proves their 'family' facade to be a facade. Instead, they are bickering and turning on themselves left, right and center. They call this weeding, but in the bible, the weeding is up to God. They have taken it upon themselves to judge, again, a job only God can do. As for the increase in converts - they themselves said in their literature that at some point it would slow down.

    You said "Isn`t that the responsiblity of the gb to lead them into Jehovahs paradisaic government". If in fact they WERE the truth - yes. I will put a twist on your statement. The Governing Body is a parasitic earthly government, and have set themselves up as so.

    You also said "I do not feel that what has ever been dispensed by these group of men has ever helped anyone to deal with living forever, only for living in the moment with an ideal look at the future, instead of a solid one." What they dispense has only helped to line their own pockets. They do not equip the dubs to live in the moment due to their stance on higher education. I have seen families who could've been living decently live in poverty due to this. One man had the education to be a professor but is working a minimum wage job - and has five children.

    The GB is out for itself. They are a publishing company who control people's lives, and nothing more. If they believed they were truly God's organization, the corruption would not exist at this magnitude. One thing I have found is that they claim to be Jehovah's voice - his connection here on earth, yet these same people put the Pope down all the time.

    Anyone who finally gets out witchywoman wonders how they could have believed all that crap. Don't be hard on yourself, because they are a cult and strategically wrap their rules around your throat and thoughts. Rejoice in the fact that you are free. We are now in a postion to help others.

    As for the JWs losing followers - it was bound to happen, but I think the head honchos will pull back, regroup, wait until this blows over, and start again.... just like the Taliban.

    Mimilly

  • OUTLAW
    OUTLAW

    Hey Bleep,WBTS dosen`t kill babies?They just own 50% of a bomb parts factory that helps make bombs that kill babies.Do a little research and you won`t look like you don`t know anything...OUTLAW

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