Why Edlers are not Qualified to Handle child abuse (page 4)

gumby

SYN:

You were wondering how bleep would respond to this thread:

I made this post a while back on the same subject and she called me her HERO for my post.....go figure!

gumby
Master Member
United States of America
Posts: 973
Since: Jul 22, 2001

Re: A QUESTION FOR JW'S

Jul 28, 2002 14:03

Bleeper

Imagine you have a little 7 year old girl and she begins to have nightmares and dosen't want to be alone. She begins to do poorly in school. One days she tells you brother .....has been touching her and making her do things.

Youare outraged and you go to the elders. They call in the accused...he denies it.....they tell you to forget it and "leave it in Jehovah's hands". The nightmares continue and your daughter is messed up emotionally.

Now you are really pissed so you go to the authorities and deal with it your way. The accused man goes to the brothers and says your making him trouble. They tell you to back off and quit "causing divisions". You cannot drop this as you "know" your daughter isn't lying.

Bottom line......you get DFed for making trouble and going ahead of Jehovah's arrangement.

............. This is the problem......don't you know this?

Bleep
Master Member
United States of America
Posts: 497
Since: May 20, 2002

Re: A QUESTION FOR JW'S

Jul 29, 2002 15:10

Hi gumbyman, my hero

It is a problem everywhere. I have shown people how to break the cycle of abuse. I have shown people what the Elders are do. I have shown examples of how my family saved my nephew from his step mother and bad father. I have talked about the grounds for disfellowshiping.
To be done right the Bible information should allready be known. So the family should know what to do. They should have an investigation and since the U.S.A. has a strange court system it might take some time. DO NOT blame the Witnesses for having a bad government here. That is the reason the accused get off so easy.

Just my thoughts on the matter, thanks

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Edited by - Gumby on 2 August 2002 0:6:21

gumby

Bleep says:

"DO NOT blame the Witnesses for having a bad government"

They ARE the government.

waiting

bttt - I'm outta words - but still an excellent thread.

waiting

Jane Spinak, a Columbia law professor who specializes in children's rights.

"But on some level it makes sense that she would remember those details. A child who's interested in colors or cars might notice that the car was green better than an adult. There's always pendulum swings on this issue of how much we believe children. But children can produce reliable accounts, especially when they're interviewed very soon after, by someone who's skilled enough to ask what they know without leading them, and when there's no issue of trying to keep a secret."

"When there's no issue of trying to keep a secret."

That would be JUST ONE of the points against the elders.........by their very vow to Jehovah (as evidenced by Lisa's history) .....the elders' primary responsibility is to keep the REPUTATION of Jehovah's Congregation Clean - not necessarily the congregation.

Obviously, if they kept the congregation clean........all molesters would be thrown out immediately (whether reported or not).....as it is a protection to their own children.

PUBLIC RELATIONS = REPUTATION = MORE PEOPLE COMING IN = MORE MONEY = (in an odd way) PROOF THAT JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES ARE "GOD'S CHOSEN ONES" (at least to Jehovah's Witnesses.)

Btw, there's an old saying used by violent, drunken, raping, parents to their spouses and children: "What goes on in these four walls stays in these four walls." It works.

waiting

amac

Why Edlers are not Qualified to Handle child abuse

Why JT is not Qualified to Win a spelling bee.

Sorry, I couldn't resist!

JT

AMAC

you got me on that one-- i tried to change it but it was too late it had already posted

but then again i would have probably misspelled the next one too

smile

amac

It was a cheap shot but I had to take it!

LizardSnot

I wonder what college JR Brown attended?

hmmmmm

Lizard

JT

JR did not attend college - he started pioneering very young served where the need is great with the PO in my hall when i was at bethel- they were best of friends

both got married my PO had kids , JR didn't and kept on pioneering and serving were need was great and finally got Tapped FOR THE TRAVELING work- worked his way up to DO- He was one of the most widely known black DOs in his day

in fact he was so powerful as a DO for he served the major black metro areas he was developing followers and to address this issue THE society took him off the road and put him in Writing Dept

for awhile he handled Questions From Readers, but they had a tight grip on him

the entire time i was at Bethel for almost 7yrs they NEVER , NOT ONCE ALLOWED HIM to conduct the behel family wt- he was only allowed to read

ONE OF the most important thing to know about jw is he is ALL STYLE COOLIEST BLACK HEAVY at Bethel- in fact many young black bro would go so far as to TALK LIKE JR

he was just COOL- we used to call him the WT's "Louis Farakann" smile

many white bro esp the heavies hated him-- he was such a dynamic speaker one of the best in the biz

he is the reason why so many young black bro i personally know felt that the Org would give you the type of education that one needed

if you talk to JR - the words he use and depth of knowledge is very impressive to bro with HS diplomas

so the wt keeps it's member in darkness

as has been mentioned about the wt mags give you a 4 yr education - well in the black community of jw that i grew up in WE BELIEVED IT AND BRO LIKE JR WAS VIEWED AS the proof in the pudding

patio34

JT,

Thanks for that masterful account of two scenarios! I printed it out and saved it. it's very easy to remember and really, as Farkel said, hits the nail on the head.

Pat

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