what did god do before he did anything?

by sleepy 39 Replies latest jw friends

  • TR
    TR

    I think God sat around pounding his giant celestial pud until his mom caught him and told him to go outside and play. The rest is history.

    TR

  • 13th_apostate
    13th_apostate

    I was disturbed by this question also. I mean, if god was perfect, as I understood it, there was no need for him/her/it to do ANYTHING. I was always under the impression that perfection doesnt suffer boredom or a lack of anything. perfection needs nothing. so if this was the case, why did god create anything? the elders tried to tell me that he created us all out of love. my mental rebuttal was always, if he loved us, why didn't he create us exactly like him then? why make us lower than him? that always seemed arrogant to me, but I never voiced this opinion to anyone. I think this is one reason that several years ago I became interested in the gnostic scriptures of the nag hammadi library because quite a few of those scriptures voice a somewhat similar opinion.

    if you really think about it, if god had always been, then he must have either done nothing (meditated like buddha I guess) until he suddenly decided to make a bunch of monkeys on a little planet or he was busy creating other things that we have no idea about and then later turned his attentions to our existence. both concepts are equally bothersome to me because both options open up a near endless range of questions about god's "mental state".

    will

  • zenpunk
    zenpunk

    The problem is that we think too much in terms of time. And we think of God too much as just a more powerful version of ourselves. It doesn't work that way. It's beyond our human comprehension.

  • Crazy151drinker
    Crazy151drinker

    What is time? What is forever?

    I think this kind of subject is a little to much out of the box for our minds.

    I'll agree with TR in some points. I think God got bored. Maybe the angels hadnt had a hit in a while and he wanted to hear some Metallica??????

  • TruckerGB
    TruckerGB

    Got out of bed and had a cup of tea,and thought,''who can I baffle today''.

  • 13th_apostate
    13th_apostate

    zenpunk: I guess this is because in genesis it says: "Let us make man in our image". if god is completely unrelated to man or beyond his comprehension, than most of the bible is useless and god should be studied in more of an abstract way, perhaps as some eastern beliefs dictate.

    will

  • Jesus Christ
    Jesus Christ

    Oh you silly mortals. You want to know what dad did before you came along? Juggled poodles. Don't ask me why but he just had this thing for trillions of years where he loved to juggle poodles. In fact, I was created so that he'd have someone to juggle poodles with. The only way to TRUE enlightenment is to juggle poodles and if everyone in the world spent their time juggling poodles the whole world would be in infinitely better shape now.

    Oh, yeah. Dad also drank a lot of vodka which really does explain a lot.

  • jst2laws
    jst2laws

    Hello Sleepy,

    Good to talk again.

    I like the clues we got from

    Gopher:"what is time",

    ve9gra: " from our standpoint" ?

    Francois: " don't think the human mind is capable of comprehending", ............... "conceiving of eternity as a straight line through infinity is likely in error"

    zenpunk: "we think of God too much as just a more powerful version of ourselves."

    We can't comprehend much at all about God with what we have to work with so far. When we ask your question our limited minds imagine either a sweaty Henry Adams feverishly working with unrelenting zeal, or maybe a 300 pound eigth wonder of the world sitting in front of a TV with a can of beer watching cartoons. Our vision is limited to human experience, to which I certainly hope God is not limited.

    Jst2laws

  • Satanus
    Satanus

    I may as well put out my two bits worth, since i have an opinion on this.

    The way it seems that it might be, is as something from hinduism. 'God' is a potential. The only time it really is something, is when it does something. Otherwise, it is just infinite possibilies. When it created something, it budded off miniscule replicas of itself, something like a puffball mushroom that shoots spores out into the breeze. This may be a continuous action on it's part. The universe is a learning type experiment/playground that these replicas felt inclined to produce. They can involve themselves at any times, any places, in any ways that they wish.

    In hinduism, it is said that all gods are brahmin. That is all their gods are aspects of one 'god'.

    This theory is in harmony w the oneness that many spiritual adepts feel. It also doesn't contradict w evolution or the many cruelties/screwups in nature and in humankind. I'm not hindu, so the way i stated it may not be exactly the same as their writings.

    SS

  • teejay
    teejay

    Easiest question that I've run across so far this week!

    What did god do before he did anything? Simple. Nothing.

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