CHANGED---NEW POLICY/INVITATION

by silentlambs 36 Replies latest jw friends

  • silentlambs
    silentlambs

    As a few may recall Watchtower Policy has changed when circumstances serves the interest of the Governing Body in getting rid of someone they want to railroad. An example that has been offered involves Peter Gregerson. Peter was a personal friend to Ray Franz, in 1980 Peter wrote a letter to the Society, saying he wanted no further association with the organization. At that time a disassociation letter with no wrongdoing was handled with no shunning but simply as a person who walked away. When Gregerson left, the Governing Body created a new policy that stated all persons who DA'd would now be treated the same as disfellowshipped in a 1981 Watchtower. A few months later Ray Franz was found to be eating a meal with Gregerson along with their wives, once again there was no policy to cover this as a disfellowshipping offense. Yet , in short order a new article was written regarding "new" policy by the Governing Body. That is, anyone who eats with a disfellowshipped or disassociated individual would make themselves subject to disfellowshipment also. Result? Ray Franz was disfellowhipped not for apostasy, but for the "new light" given by the Governing Body stating, eating was considered a crime against God if it involved disfellowhipped individuals. Oddly enough neither of the two wives were disfellowshipped, perhaps at that time the policy only applied to men.

    This policy was yet adjusted again when the new "Flock" book came out in 1991. In a side note on page 103 an adjustment was offered at a Circuit Assembly elders meeting on 4-15-97. There we were asked to add that a mother or father could eat with a son or daughter if nothing spiritual was discussed. If the mother or father wished to do this they would simply be viewed in the same context as a bad example and would not have exemplary privileges in the congregation such as elder, ms, or pioneering. The specific instruction given in the "Flock" book by side note was, "Do not take judicial action against relatives unless the disfellowshipped one fellowships spiritually with the brother or sister. If the brother or sister chooses to fellowship on spiritual matters with a disfellowshipped person, they become subject to judicial action."

    I wonder how Dick Moreland the chairman of the judicial committee for Ray Franz was able to determine Franz and Gregerson were having spiritual fellowship, but their wives were not? Or if it was determined that at the time the decision was made there was no spiritual fellowship between them, with the new adjustment, would the decision to disfellowhip Franz now be rescinded? Instead, could it have been a determination made by the Governing Body in a "disfellowship at all costs" maneuver? Did Brother Moreland act as a spiritual man and make a decision based on the information at hand or did he simply do as instructed with the spanking "new" policy of the Governing Body? It appears he did as told as he was shortly thereafter appointed as a District Overseer and remains so to this day, at the time he was a simple buck private elder sent in as a trouble shooter for the Society. It appears the Governing Body rewards well those who ignore honor and integrity to follow their bidding.

    Now reel forward five years later, with the latest comments in the August 2002, Kingdom Ministry insert, the policy has been adjusted yet again, the "new" adjustment is that even if you say a greeting to your mother or father you could be disfellowshipped. That new policy seems to be the harshest yet toward disfellowshipped ones and family members who wish to remain Jehovahs Witnesses. Is the Governing Body making other adjustments when it comes to how judicial matters are cared for? Do they have a high concern to take this step as only a last resort? In the rash of recent judicial cases involving those who have spoken out to protect children, this appears to not be the case, I offer a few examples.

    In past protocol a judicial committee is required to inform either verbally or if circumstances dictate, in writing the time and place for the hearing. If the accused refuses to meet, and if proper evidence is obtained, such as confession or two or three eye witnesses, they may proceed with the hearing without the accused. If the accused is willing to meet, the committee will make every attempt for suitable arrangements that are kind to the accused so they may attend. The purpose is to give the accused every opportunity to defend themselves if they are innocent so justice can prevail.

    This was a foundation policy that has been in place for many years. Yet a "new" policy has emerged, no doubt at the direction of the Governing Body. It is as follows, the judicial committee demands a meeting time, if the committee chooses to not show up they are not required to inform the accused. If the accused is willing to meet requests in writing a more suitable meeting time, the judicial committee ignores this request and has a secret judicial hearing to disfellowship without informing the accused of the meeting. Expect a Watchtower article shortly to verify this "new light" to accommodate the whims of the Governing Body.

    The second policy relates to appeal committees. In past protocol, the accused typically has to inform the chairman of the original committee in writing of their reasons for wanting the appeal. The chairman informs the CO who then sets up an appeal committee to inform the accused of the time and place for the appeal hearing. Since the appeal of the accused is required to be in writing, the timetable for the appeal hearing has often been supplied in writing to the accused if circumstances dictate, so their would be not doubt or miscommunication regarding the appeal hearing. The purpose was to make the accused feel they were being given a careful review of the matter to determine if they had a fair hearing by the first committee. Both committees meet with the accused to determine if an error in judgment has occurred and/or the original committee had a proper basis in establishing the charges.

    "New" policy dictates that an attempt is made to inform the accused verbally. If they do not get the message, the appeal committee quickly confirms the original decision and makes the announcement the soonest Thursday, without informing the accused of the final decision. The accused is then left to wonder what happened until they are informed after the fact by a friend oelative who happens to find out.

    With Barbra Anderson, she was informed of an appeal hearing on a Sunday with a "two day" notice, she requested to meet later, the following weekend, as she was going to out of town on the requested weekend. The appeal committee went ahead with a secret meeting unknown to Barb at a local Motel, for less than an hour. The Chairman of the appeal committee called Barbara's attorney the next day and informed him they up held the decision of the original committee. The attorney immediately wrote a letter of appeal and protest of the decision. That Thursday without any notification to Barbara, the announcement was made that she had been disfellowshipped. She got no answer, no appeal, and no suggestion of trying to arrive at a fair and impartial decision.

    Fast forward to today. This morning at I was contacted by Dan McMullen an elder in the Princeton Kentucky Congregation. I was surprised to hear him over the telephone as once again I have specifically requested all communication go through my attorney in my appeal letter. When he informed me he was chair of the appeal committee, I immediately requested for him to please follow the instructions in my letter regarding contacting my attorney as to timing of the hearing, at which I hung up. I was not informed of any date or time for a hearing. I called my attorney at the end of the day and he had received no communication regarding the appeal hearing. So it would appear the appeal committee will follow a similar venue as with Barb Anderson, they will conduct another secret hearing, make a rubber stamp decision and make an announcement this Thursday of the outcome. Does that sound like a fair and impartial process to you?

    I plan to attend the meeting this Thursday, if any would like to attend with me I would welcome the support. What is the purpose? To let them know that the decision is a farce and they should be ashamed to treat those who support the protection of children in this manner. I plan to sit on the front row and dare them to make the announcement. The question is, will the fear of man that has prevented them from facing me to this point overcome them yet again? Or will they be willing to make public the stance of the Governing Body who orchestrate the "beating" of any brother and sister by disfellowshipping those who speak out on abuse?

    Come with me to the Thursday night meeting and we will find the answer together.

    silentlambs

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  • knighthawk1981
    knighthawk1981

    bill you are awesome! they can't accept your beliefs so they get rid of you. that was just wrong. i hope you win the lawsuit against them!

  • Crystal
    Crystal

    I think all of us should go to the Thursday meeting (in our own towns of course)for a silent protest.Each of us should be holding a stuffed silent lamb.

  • LDH
    LDH

    Come with me to the Thursday night meeting this week and we will find the answer together.

    Bill,

    I only wish I lived near you. I would LOVE to go and support you. On the other hand, perhaps it is a good idea I am in California.

    Surely if I attended this meeting there would be a police presence a la' Dave wiltshire.

    Bill, they care nothing for justice. Don't expect it.

    Lisa

  • Golden Girl
    Golden Girl

    I really doubt if they will allow you to stay!..

    I sent my DA letter before 1980. I wonder if the rules are changed for me? Or if they still consider the old rules apply to me?

    My JW Mother in law and Sister in law visit very often. We also eat together. And my Mother in law HAS discussed spiritual matters ...slightly...with me. Of course telling me how close Armageddon is!

    I keep waiting for her to say something about it! But she depends on Hubby (Her inactive JW son) and I to do work around her farm. We see her every weekend. She doesn't have to depend on us. She is financially well off enough that she could afford to hire help..Course we are free!

    And of course no one at the Hall has the time to help her all the time!

    Funny how the rules are bent to fit the situation! Eh?

    Golden Girl.....

    Edited by - Golden Girl on 6 August 2002 0:37:39

  • wasasister
    wasasister

    Bill:

    In light of how they handled the judicial meetings (and I use the term loosely) in your case - sealing windows, locking doors, failing to appear - I would not be surprised if they try to prohibit you from attending somehow.

    They seem to be taking the stance that you are a militant, dissident, trouble-maker of some kind. In short, they are RE-acting rather than acting.

    In my area, there was once a rabid anti-Witness who was the wife of a Baptist minister; a woman who was never a Witness. She would occasionally show up at a special talk or Memorial and try to disrupt the meeting. Either young, strong-arm ministerial servants would escort her out, or the police would show up. From what you have said, they seem to be taking the same attitude towards you.

    I hasten to add, completely without provocation.....

    I wish I could be there anyway,

    Wasa

  • truman
    truman

    This continual redefining, tightening and adding to the rules for disfellowshipping reminds me of the way my husband's job works. He is a locomotive engineer. The railroads have been around about 150 years, only a litle longer than the WTS, and they too have made an art of rulemaking. There is a rule to cover every eventuality and circumstance. And if something should arise which seems to fall outside the current rules, a new rule is immediately drafted. Supposedly all this is done in the name of safety, much as the WTS would say that their actions are for the spiritual safety of the org. But in reality, the effect and purpose of these endless rules is to control the employees, and facilitate the jettisoning of people who are deemed undesireable for one reason ar another, kind of like disfellowshipping. Oddly enought, like DF'ing, at times a 'fired' employee may return for further employment if certain conditions are met.

    Some posters noted that there is a wide latitude in the application of the finer points of the DF policies, and this too is like the railroad rules. They are applied unevenly many times, mostly in relation to getting the job done. However, if the company wants to get rid of you, there is invariably a rule which you have broken and so you can be blamed for whatever went wrong and fired. In fact, it is impossible to make a move, much less do the job efficiently and still follow all the rules, so you are always a potential violator. It is a climate of fear and intimidation, which is designed to reinforce the company power, and keep the underlings off balance and worried about the security of their employment status.

    Of course, at the railroad, we are only talking about a job. In the WTS, it seems to the faithful witness that his very everlasting life is at stake, probably making the whole system work even better. Although in reality, since the WTS is mostly a huge business corp/publishing company, all there is at stake IS a job, and not a very good one at that.

    truman

  • Sam Beli
    Sam Beli

    Obviously your insistence on communication through a lawyer is one of many things that irritate them about you and what you stand for. The WT hierarchy is not used to being told how to do things and is not about to change for anyone, least of all you.

    They would rather be blatantly unjust than appear to respect your request, however reasonable.

    I hope you do intimidate them. If so, you may have to go to several Thursday night meetings in a row.

    Kind regards,

    Sam

  • LyinEyes
    LyinEyes

    Wow , Bill!!!! Wild Turkey would love to sit right next to you this Thursday nite. We have too much going on to leave town this Thursday . I would love to , after they read the announcement for many to just get up and walk out.

    Our disassociation letters will be read Thursday nite too. I guess we all 3 are going out at the same time. Ours is voluntary, there was just no way around it. But I am ready to get on with the rest of my life. We just put all three of our kids in school and I hope to give them, what is left a some kind of happy childhood.

    I have had it with JW rules and regulations , their lies, their hypocrisy, their total lack of love. I would still love to continue to be supportive of those who are silenced lambs and also for any who's family has committed suicide because of disfellowshipping. If you know of anyone who ever needs to talk to someone about this, my email is always open and you have my cell number. My mom killed herself 16 yrs ago, after being d/f for only 4 months. The pain of that has never gotten better for me, and I hold the JW with some blood guilt regarding her death.

    Stay strong Bill, and give our love to your family, this must be hard for them too.

    Sincerely , Denny and Dede

  • Beck_Melbourne
    Beck_Melbourne

    I'd go if I could - after stopping off in Atlanta first of course.

    With you in spirit Bill...'kia kaha Wiremu Bowen'!

    Beck

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