The Compulsion to Confess

by refiners fire 32 Replies latest jw friends

  • refiners fire
    refiners fire

    I have been a compulsive confessor.

    Do you think its a dub thing?

    Ive been to elders numerous times about things. Ive never been CAUGHT or dobbed in, I always felt the impulse to confess and purge my soul.

    Most of my confession impulses occured after a public talk or WT study that highlighted the necessity to confess. I recall quite clearly that I felt the Watchtower article in question was directed at ME specifically. Or I felt that the public speaker was addressing me personally, directed by holy spirit. Thus God himself was calling me to confession and cleansing. So I confessed, answering the call of God to repentance.

    This aspect of feeling "singled out" by the speaker is a very definite aspect of being in a cult, and is a fact of "charisma" in the case of gurus. The ability to make each individual feel you are addressing them personally. It is one of those mysteries of the cult.

  • refiners fire
    refiners fire

    The double edged message of The Watchtower call to confession....

    From the WT of July 15, 1972:

    ..."A Christian can become overconfident, failing to realize that 'the one who thinks he is standing needs to be on guard lest he fall.' (1 Cor. 10:12) Or because of not appreciating fully God's provisions for keeping spiritual strength and health and for defense against Satan's attacks, the Christian may become weak and vulnerable to temptation. He may commit a serious wrong.".....

    So Christians DO commit sin then, there is hope for me.

    ...."Why, then, go to these elders? To seek their help as appointed shepherds. Wrongdoing is an evidence of spiritual illness. Showing what is needed, the disciple James says: "Openly confess your sins to one another and pray for one another, that you may get healed".....

    I recieve no assistance, no guidance, surely this means that Gods spirit is directing that my plea for healing be ignored. God himself rejects me, surely.

    ...."Yes, what determines whether the congregation disfellowships one or not is-not the gravity of the wrong, nor the bad publicity it may have occasioned-but the individual's sincere repentance or lack of it. If he is truly repentant, the congregation would never cast the person out just to satisfy the feelings of some individual or of the public in general"......

    Well, I am WEEPING and snivelling, surely this indicates true repentance?

    ...."Clearly there should be sadness, remorse and regret felt by any Christian who sins. And yet these feelings of themselves are not a sure measure of the genuineness of repentance. The question is: Why does the wrongdoer feel such sadness, remorse and regret? What motivates these feelings?.......it is a life-or-death matter that our motive be the right one. Worldly sadness does not stem from faith and love of God and righteousness. It is born of regret due to failure, disappointment, material or social loss, the prospect of undergoing punishment or shame. Worldly sadness mourns the unpleasant consequences wrongdoing brings. But it does not mourn over the unrighteousness itself, or the reproach it brings on God.-".......

    Ah. theres the rub. God sees that I repent because I dont want to die at ARMAGGEDON. He sees my inner motive. That is why I stand condemned.

    ...."The sadness accompanying true repentance has a very different motivation than worldly sadness. There is a heartfelt wanting to come back into God's favor, motivated by a love for him that comes from knowing him"....

    yeah. Right.

    Edited by - refiners fire on 8 August 2002 22:15:46

  • Beck_Melbourne
    Beck_Melbourne

    Are you talking about that talk on masturbation again??

    Seriously, my ex is one of these compulsive confessor's...he tells the elder's everything...as though it is some kind of penance for something really quite ordinary, like getting drunk at a social function LOL.

    Not me, I never confessed nuthin' even though I had a secret dungeon with S & M equipment and regular visitors

    Beck

  • refiners fire
    refiners fire

    No. Im talking about the impulse to confess within cults. It can apply equally to sex immorality, gambling compulsion, alcoholism and apostate thinking.

  • Dutchie
    Dutchie

    Hi Refiners,

    I never, ever had a compulsion to confess. On the contrary, I'm like Beck and never confessed anything. Oh, I know that we were always encouraged to confess our sins to the elders, but I could never see the purpose in that. What did I expect them to do anyway but show me scriptures and I already knew all the scriptures. So looking back I know that I avoided a lot of grief, because if I did anything wrong it was between me and my God.

  • Beck_Melbourne
    Beck_Melbourne

    Then I would have to say No, I am not one. My bogus wedding is a perfect example...sheesh!! I also think some people don't confess in order to protect the innocent, if that makes any sense!

    Beck

  • Nanoprobe
    Nanoprobe

    I absolutely never confused anything to any elder. My policy was don't tell them anything.

    Were you raised a Catholic?

  • refiners fire
    refiners fire

    Yes. It seems the majority kept mum. I talked with my brother years ago and secretly he did worse things than I did. Yet he was able to exist in there in a state of flux between his "appearance" (Mr Holy pioneer) and his reality (Mr secret sinner). Same thing with daddy the Elder. This seems to be the course taken by the majority. The smart ones I think.

  • Incense_and_Peppermints
    Incense_and_Peppermints

    refiners, i'm with you on this one. i always felt that they were looking right-at-me. it is a cult thing. and maybe a throwback to my catholic training before that...

  • joeshmoe
    joeshmoe

    Shame on all of you who didn't immediately confess all. How can the congregation gossip get started if you don't tell the elders, and thus the elders wives, what you've done?

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