by minimus 75 Replies latest jw friends
minimus,
Oh believe me, I did call the police. There were lawsuits and counter suits and a big nasty mess, but I wasn't going to take his crap lying down. I've never been a JW so I didn't really know how wacked some if not most of them are. Now I definitely know, and will never allow them to take advantage of me in the future.
Take care,
Kevin
Try and imagine that there was no law or secular authority against killing, no punishment due on this earth - and that the secular authorities always acted as bystanders in such matters.
Then, think your answer again.
paduan
I have always questioned the mentality of any adult that would ALLOW an organization to dictate to him who he would and would not associate with. When a person will shun his own brother, for life if need be, for no other reason than instructed to do so by an organization, or as Dutchie pointed out, allow his own child to die, or keep his mouth shut when his child is molested, well is there anything he wouldn't do?
Jehovah's Witnesses ? The Slave's Slaves is more appropriate. Or the non-thinking class......
Kevin,
I know where you're coming from. A jw family treated my own (and still do) so contemptably that I thought I was going crazy at first. I had never known such a thing in all my life. I too, thought at first that they were an odd christian sect. Now it seems I've been recruited to help put an end to them for all time. 'Wacked out' seems like a rather kind way to describe our attackers. It shocks me that women are involved also.
paduan
paduan,
I also never gave the JW's much thought until I had direct dealings with some of them. "Wacked out" is the nicest way I can put how I feel into words without being offensive. All I know is that until the events of last fall and winter I had felt grief and depression before, but I had truthfully never felt physically vulnerable or in danger. I even bought a handgun that used to sit on my nightstand every night. I since got rid of the gun because I was going through some tough times emotionally and it wasn't a good idea to have a gun in the house when your slightly suicidal. Was I over reacting, mabey. Instinct took over when I felt threatened, so I did what I thought I needed to do to protect myself. I do know that I'll do whatever I can to help in bringing this lying, hateful, fake christian group crashing down. That may sound childish and vindictive but they started it so pooh on them (lol).
Take care,
Kevin
The post by Jim_TX in the 'Why the Memorial?' thread
sent a chill down my spine.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.aspx?id=35900&site=3
A scary thought.
A scary thought indeed...
Hope to see you keep posting Kevin, you're not alone. For some reason it seems that you've been picked to help put an end to it. We'll see what happens.
paduan
Yes they would. This life means nothing to them, JW would probably see it as a favor cause the one they murder will have a new change on a paradise earth or some similar thought....
I'd like to qualify that
Who would argue the judgement? Why are the jws left in such a place of darkness. Is to believe that this life is all that others have, and yet take away from it, a crime that brings such a punishment?
paduan
Seeing as their religion is based mainly on old testement non christian principles and techniques, of course many of them would. Here is the quote someone asked for:
*** w52 11/15 703 Questions from Readers ***
Questions from ReadersIn the case of where a father or mother or son or daughter is disfellowshiped, how should such person be treated by members of the family in their family relationship?-P. C., Ontario, Canada.
We are not living today among theocratic nations where such members of our fleshly family relationship could be exterminated for apostasy from God and his theocratic organization, as was possible and was ordered in the nation of Israel in the wilderness of Sinai and in the land of Palestine. "Thou shalt surely kill him; thy hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people. And thou shalt stone him to death with stones, because he hath sought to draw thee away from Jehovah thy God, . . . And all Israel shall hear, and fear, and shall do no more any such wickedness as this is in the midst of thee."-Deut. 13:6-11, AS.
Being limited by the laws of the worldly nation in which we live and also by the laws of God through Jesus Christ, we can take action against apostates only to a certain extent, that is, consistent with both sets of laws. The law of the land and God's law through Christ forbid us to kill apostates, even though they be members of our own flesh-and-blood family relationship. However, God's law requires us to recognize their being disfellowshiped from his congregation, and this despite the fact that the law of the land in which we live requires us under some natural obligation to live with and have dealings with such apostates under the same roof.
