SHUT UP AND.................

by plmkrzy 16 Replies latest jw friends

  • plmkrzy
    plmkrzy

    Stop whining!

    Ok maybe that is a bit too strong. But you read it.

    I havent been posting very much the past couple of days. But I have been thinking a lot and thinking about the board and what I expect to get out of it personally.

    Its good to rant and get things out of your system. Its healthy to let off some steam and do it in a way that doesnt harm others. This is a great place to accomplish that. Lord knows Ive done some ranting and raving and steaming. I think Im done now___ and ready to just hang out and talk with others who can share the same experiences etc. and make new acquaintances. Im tired of being alone and isolated. Once one gets in the isolation mode and becomes use to it or at least numb to it, it becomes a way of existence and there is no life left.

    worldly people cant relate to that. And those born and raised a JW cant exactly relate to the outside world much. We can all hang out and even become friends to a degree but we can never really relate because there isnt anything for us to relate too.

    So a lot of us end up in places like this.

    There are a lot of places like this. But I havent found any that have quite the potential to become like family as this place.

    My brother was accused of being possessed by the devil and thrown out of the KH in the middle of the MS. Right in front of the entire congregation. On his way out the door he flipped off the PO. That was in the 70s and he never went back. Hes 50 now. And to this day maintains a close relationship with our dad.( an x-elder)There are even a "few" elders left (old timers) who will say hello to him and shake his hand and share a beer. Believe it or not. But they are not wishing to associate with him by any means. They are simply being polite. He knows it and they know he knows it. So what. Thats the way it was intended to be all along. The big problem is it seems hardly anyone is aware of that anymore.

    I was marked for several years as "Lost to the world" but only shunned by the assholes in the congregations. Not shunned by ALL. Unfortunately more and more are converting to assholeisim.

    When my parents have get togethers bbq's whatever with thier JW brothers and sisters yadda yadda we are not invited and do not expect to be. But instead we have seperate bbq's and get togethers with our parents and other worldly family members. Always have and probably always will. The rules may have changed with the WTS view on relationships and continue to do so but we haven't.

    Even shunned by only one can be hurtful. Being shunned by the ones who were your closest friends, like I was, is extremely hurtful. Even after going back to the meetings and being welcomed back with open arms by some I was still shunned by others who saw me STILL as some one tainted by the world But I can't keep dwelling on it I have to recognize that I found out who my friends REALLY were. I am thankful for that. I could have easily wasted my entire life being a good little dub never knowing that my closest friends were also the same people who would quickly stab me in the back for nothing more then a request from someone with a mic.

    I feel pretty fortunate.

    btw I know a lot of JWs that do not practice shunning. This doesnt mean they go out partying and drinking all night with those who DA'd but it does mean they don't shun them either.

    Its soooo very sad that sooo many people simply are not aware of the simple fact that they do not have to shun people according to the wishes of the GB nor do they have to shun their own family members unless maybe they converted to Satan worship. What would the GB do if all witnesses simply stuck to shunning others according to the NWT rather then the GB? Example shunning a known molester instead of hugging the molester and shunning the smoker?

    NOTHING would happen if JWs would not allow it plain and simple.

    The WTS has turned into a political arena.

    The GB is not about to nor will they EVER dfp 6 million people for being and behaving like Christians. Why? Because it is a numbers game. They would not exist without the numbers.

    BUT they can certainly dfp one at a time while everyone sits back and watches. And complains about what they think they are being forced to do.

    This will be my last rant and the last opportunity for anyone to really rag on mefor something, and drag me tied to a bumper so if you miss out on it then to bad.

    To all of us who have been in the long hall of it and now out for a long enough period of time to have ranted enough to have gotten it out of our systems, SHUT UP!

    Let the newbies do the ranting and raving and the rest of us be supportive rather then blah blah blah I hate this and I hate that and I hate them and I hate everything blah blah blah blah.

  • SpannerintheWorks
    SpannerintheWorks

    Hi, Plmcrzy!

    SpannerintheWorks (a Newbie).

  • plmkrzy
    plmkrzy

    Hi SpannerintheWorks and welcome aboard LOL

    Plum

  • refiners fire
    refiners fire

    Hey Palm, I just thought id tell you I think you are a great lady. and cute as a damn button.

    I consider it a pleasure to know you a little, and if your being here is because you feel a bit isolated, well, for my own selfish reasons Im glad your isolated . Why? Because I want you in my life of course! Just wish I could talk with you face to face. I know it would be damn interesting. (Then after the talk, we could head down to MEXICO!! )

    Edited by - refiners fire on 8 September 2002 6:26:35

  • neyank
    neyank

    plmkrzy,

    "This will be my last rant and the last opportunity for anyone to really rag on mefor something, and drag me tied to a bumper so if you miss out on it then to bad."

    I like your style.

    OK. Enough kissing up.

    You said:

    "NOTHING would happen if JWs would not allow it plain and simple."

    "The GB is not about to nor will they EVER dfp 6 million people for being and behaving like Christians."

    I agree. The r&f JW are the ones that are giving the power to the WTS.
    They are allowing the mistreatment of people by the WTS by keeping their mouths shut and BLINDLY following the orders of the WTS even tho many feel the WTS is wrong.

    I think many have given up being real Christians and have become WatchTowerites.
    That should be their new name because it does fit their way of worship.

    neyank

  • Beck_Melbourne
    Beck_Melbourne

    I consider it a pleasure to know you a little, and if your being here is because you feel a bit isolated, well, for my own selfish reasons Im glad your isolated . Why? Because I want you in my life of course! Just wish I could talk with you face to face.

    Same here plumzie wumzie!!

    Beck

  • plmkrzy
    plmkrzy

    awwww I love you guys. Truly

  • jst2laws
    jst2laws

    Plum,

    To all of us who have been in the long hall of it and now out for a long enough period of time to have ranted enough to have gotten it out of our systems, SHUT UP!

    Let the newbies do the ranting and raving and the rest of us be supportive

    Glad to see you have reached a new level, Plum. It does seem we go through stages and like grief, it is bad when we get stuck in one of them. We each need to examine ouselves occasionally and ask, has it been "a long enough period of time to have ranted enough to have gotten it out of our systems"?

    If so lets move on to the supportive role. There are so many newbies coming every day we need more of that type.

    Jst2laws

  • QUEENIE
    QUEENIE

    YES I personally understand the SHUT UP and get involved with something other than JW this / that and the other--there is only 24/7..MY daughter LISA and I try to pour our love and attention torwards our kat Mamie (We call it love torture) WE have so called relatives that are JWs notice I call them relatives not close knit family LISA / ME and Mamie kitty are what I consider close knit family and care for each other dearly and are here for each other 24/7..Mamie kitty is our ray of sunshine....YOU think you are isolated well I think you are kool so stay isolated with us folks on this site who knows maybe someday someone will call us a cult just like the WT ORG is considered one...Sincerely, your everyday heathenistic, demonized, bad association, apostate LINDA LOU aka queenie

  • songmistress
    songmistress

    Hi Plm,

    I appreciate and identify with everything you're saying. I like it when I go on the board and see words describing what I'm feeling, because I have a hard time expressing myself . It also helps me to know I really am not alone. We do have a special kind of brother/sisterhood based on shared experience that others just cannot understand. I think of all the blank stares I get from people who have never been JW's as I try to explain what it was like.

    Now if we could just manage to organize a great big festival where we could all meet up and be this family in person.

    Thanks plm. It looks like you are ready for the next level whatever that will prove to be. Enjoy the journey.

    Blessings,

    Song

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