NEWSPAPERS - VICKI BOER ABUSE CASE - SEP 17

by hawkaw 22 Replies latest watchtower child-abuse

  • hawkaw
    hawkaw

    I can't believe no has posted any of this stuff. Vicki was on CBC in Toronto and other parts of Ontario again last night. She creamed them. She had about 1 to 2 million viewers watching her.

    Here is the the Globe and Mail (coast to coast newspaper in Canada). National (front page section) page 18 (note you will have to connecet and copy the below url to your browser to link it.

    http://www.globeandmail.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/PEstory/TGAM/20020917/UJEHOM/national/national/

    nationalTorontoHeadline_temp/3/3/3/

    Elder defends treatment of abuse claim



    By JANE GADD
    COURTS REPORTER
    Tuesday, September 17, 2002 Page A18

    A Jehovah's Witness elder who dealt with a sect member's complaint of sex abuse testified yesterday there was no need to call child-welfare authorities because the alleged perpetrator planned to report the abuse to his doctor.

    Alleged victim Victoria Boer is suing Steven Brown, as well as two other elders and the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society.

    Mr. Brown denied he discouraged Ms. Boer from seeking medical help herself.

    Ms. Boer seemed reluctant to talk about the abuse, which was already four years in the past when Mr. Brown learned of it in December, 1989, and expressed frustration with another elder who had been pressing her to see a psychiatrist, Mr. Brown said.

    "What were we to do? Take a young girl and twist her arm, say go today?" Mr. Brown asked Ms. Boer's lawyer in Ontario Superior Court.

    He said he took the word of Ms. Boer's father, Gower Palmer, that he would speak to a doctor and later bring his daughter with him.

    "The doctor would have the resources to refer her. We didn't," Mr. Brown testified.

    "Our role was to be spiritual shepherds."

    He said he and other elders decided after two meetings with father and daughter that Mr. Palmer was penitent and, although he minimized what he had done, could be trusted to keep his word about reporting, and not harm his other children

    Ms. Boer has testified the elders intimidated her into covering up the abuse to protect the movement's image.

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    Here is the Toronto Sun article (read by about 1 million people)

    http://www.canoe.ca/TorontoNews/ts.ts-09-17-0060.html

    Tuesday, September 17, 2002

    Sex abuse stumped elder

    Jehovah's Witness was unsure how to handle case
    By IAN MCDOUGALL, TORONTO SUN

    An elder of the Shelburne Jehovah's Witness congregation admitted in court yesterday he would handle the case of a woman sexually abused by her father differently now by reporting the matter immediately to provincial authorities.

    Steven Brown, one of the defendants in a $700,000 lawsuit, testified that after a 1990 meeting with Children's Aid workers over the woman's case, congregation officials had a better understanding of how to handle child abuse, including their reporting requirements.

    Brown, fellow elder Brian Cairns and the church are being sued by the woman for failing to report her case to provincial authorities, for forcing her to confront her father and for discouraging her from getting medical treatment.

    Brown said he first became aware of the sexual abuse in the woman's home during a December 1989 meeting with Cairns. Court heard it wasn't until Feb. 5, 1990, that Children's Aid was told about the case.

    During the meeting, the father confessed he violated his daughter.

    Cairns and Brown had not dealt with child abuse before and were unsure how to handle it -- especially the requirement to report it to secular authorities, Brown said.

    "We didn't know who to refer the plaintiff to, we didn't know who to report the abuse to," he said.

    "We have a young woman, not living at home, 19 or 20 years old. We had determined there was no immediate threat. We wondered how to proceed."

    Brown said they wrote to the Watchtower society, the Witnesses' governing body, asking for advice.

    As they waited for a response, other church elders became alarmed they had not reported the case to the authorities, Brown said.

    He added the division within the congregation became a problem at the end of January 1990 while a committee was being formed to punish the woman's father.

    The committee revoked his church privileges and told him to report to a doctor and to Children's Aid.

    The Toronto Sun is not naming the woman or her family because she is a victim of sexual abuse.

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    Here is the Southam News report that went in the Ottawa Citizen, Kingston Whig Standard and goes in about 50 to 70 papers in Canada

    http://www.canada.com/search/site/story.asp?id=B7D7247C-58E8-48CB-A4B6-70FECD58B76E Abuser posed no threat: church elder Shannon Kari The Ottawa Citizen Tuesday, September 17, 2002\

    TORONTO -- An elder at a southwestern Ontario congregation of the Jehovah's Witnesses yesterday defended a church decision to allow a man accused of having sexually abused his daughter in the mid-1980s to report himself to authorities.

    Steve Brown testified in Ontario Superior Court that the abuse had stopped and there was no reason to suspect the two younger children in the family were in danger when elders in the Shelburne congregation learned of the allegations in December 1989.

    Victoria Boer, 31, is suing Mr. Brown, two other church elders and the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society for $700,000, alleging "gross negligence" in refusing to report suspicions of child abuse as required by law.

    Ms. Boer, who is permitting her name to be made public, alleges she was sexually abused by her father between the ages of 11 and 15, until her mother intervened.

    The father has not been charged with a criminal offence, and he is not a defendant in the lawsuit.

    A church committee did not expel the father or make the allegations public, Mr. Brown said.

    "He was repentant and fit to be a member of the congregation," the church elder said.

    "We were not sitting with a man who was determined to continue a course of wickedness."

    Copyright 2002 The Ottawa Citizen

    Edited by - hawkaw on 17 September 2002 11:31:31

    Edited by - hawkaw on 17 September 2002 11:33:42

  • expatbrit
    expatbrit

    Nails in coffins:

    He said he and other elders decided after two meetings with father and daughter that Mr. Palmer was penitent and, although he minimized what he had done, could be trusted to keep his word about reporting, and not harm his other children

    Ker-chunk!

    An elder of the Shelburne Jehovah's Witness congregation admitted in court yesterday he would handle the case of a woman sexually abused by her father differently now by reporting the matter immediately to provincial authorities.

    Ker-chunk!

    As they waited for a response, other church elders became alarmed they had not reported the case to the authorities, Brown said.

    Ker-chunk!

    An elder at a southwestern Ontario congregation of the Jehovah's Witnesses yesterday defended a church decision to allow a man accused of having sexually abused his daughter in the mid-1980s to report himself to authorities

    KER-CHUNK!

    And the best is yet to come.

    Expatbrit

  • hawkaw
    hawkaw

    Expat,

    I've lost your number. Give me a call

    hawk

  • LoneWolf
    LoneWolf

    Excellent. I'm sure that everyone here is deeply interested in what's going on and will be watching it closely to see how to go about it. I look for a very large class action movement to head up soon.

    Wish I had your email address. I have a few things of my own that I'd like your input on. Mine is open.

    LoneWolf

    Edited by - LoneWolf on 17 September 2002 11:49:51

  • sunshineToo
    sunshineToo

    Thanks, hawkaw, for posting the articles.

    Please keep us updated.

    sunshineToo

  • concerned mama
    concerned mama

    Thanks for posting the articles, Hawk. I can't believe the lack of coverage of the story, here .

  • plmkrzy
    plmkrzy
    she was sexually abused by her father between the ages of 11 and 15, until her mother intervened.

    The father has not been charged with a criminal offence, and he is not a defendant in the lawsuit.

    This is insane!

    Why the F*** didn't the mother do something about it when it was happening. And WHY ISN'T THE FATHER BEING CHARGED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Sorry but I don't buy the afraid of being shunned crap when s**t like this is going on. The mother new about it and should have damn well got off her f***** ars and done something about it.

  • hawkaw
    hawkaw

    I would like to thank everyone who attended court yesterday. It was sooooo funny when I got there. I was in my conservative suit which is one of the ones I use for court when I testfy. A number of people supporting Vicki were there and observed me sit down in the hallway. They were thinking I was a JW "at large". They quickly fled the neighbourhood except for one lost lone sole named M ___ D___. Well didn't I strike up a conversation and introduced myself. Next thing you know we hit it off and the gang came back to say hello.

    Soon Barb and Joe Anderson showed up followed by a number of other people such as Mr. M. Moss who was on TV with Vicki last week. I got to meet so many of you - Dr. Penton, Expat, Pathofthorns, Had Enough, Mouthy (love your lamb) and oh my there were soooo many. I must admit it was soooo coool to get Vicki and M. Moss alone for about 1 minute of their timeand talk to both at the same time. I am soo proud of them, as victims of serious abuse, for stepping forward like this and doing those TV interviews.

    hawk

  • hawkaw
    hawkaw

    plmkrzy,

    When it comes to the mother - Its just like the Berry case. Ms. Mary Gower, Vicki's mom, behaved just like she was taught as per the Nov. 15, 1973 WT QFR. You know the power this group has on people and the constant thinking that they are "close" to the end. Its just like the elder Brown testifying yesterday. The man is named in this lawsuit and stands to lose his friggen house and everything he and his wife own for crying out loud. He should have had his own lawyer watching over him. But, nope. He relied on Watchtower counsel to do evidence in chief and he got creamed both in evidence in chief (admitting he should have done it different) and in cross examination. I watched his wife in the "stands" holding on for dear life to Brown's uncle while he gave evidence in chief - the fear .... oh the fear .....

    When it comes to the cops - you have to remember what happened back then. After the J.C., Vicki fled to the west. She couldn't take all the name calling and back stabbing by the two elders and how they supported Mr. Gower Palmer instead of her. Gower went to Children's Aid and the cops were called but ....... there was NO victim. Since the Victim wasn't around and the Children's Aid mishandled the case (in my opinion) nothing was ever done.

    But ... there is something else that I do not want to get into - understand for fear I would jepoardize the present case .... I hope you can understand that but there is a lot going on behind the curtain that I am not at liberty to explain.

    hawk

  • Joyzabel
    Joyzabel

    LOL @ hawkaw being "the jw at large"!

    Next time wear your name tag with your jwd handle on it

    Thank you so much for keeping us informed on what is going on with this court case.

    j2bf

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