Last night my dad tried to commit suicide

by cruzanheart 38 Replies latest jw friends

  • DJ
    DJ

    Man, you'd think these stories are made up.....but they aren't and that's what has been bothering me for days now. Cruzin', I'm so sorry. Your dad is living thru a hell right now and it is because of lying men. I hate the WT. Your dad needs lots of love and support now as you know. I wish you had siblings to help you. I wish I knew what to say but I don't. I am in the anger gear lately. Give your daddy a hug from me and tell him, "I know". love,dj

  • cruzanheart
    cruzanheart

    Thanks for all the support, guys - it really helps a lot to know you care AND you understand what's going on. I really saw something snap in him when we put Mom in the nursing home; he hasn't been the same person since, but the doctors swear he didn' t have a stroke or anything like that.

    As for the 85-year-old hottie, believe me, everyone who knew my mother understood and sympathized with his brief affair. My mom was a "piece of work," to quote somebody or another, who kept Dad on a short chain for their whole 54 years of marriage. Poor guy needed a release, and we even had his lover over for lunch. She was a very sweet retired schoolteacher. He was very proud of the affair (I think it's a 75-year-old guy thing), thumbed his nose at the elders and then repented in sackcloth and ashes the week after his DF'ing was announced. He renounced his lady love and even moved to a different retirement home because, according to him, she couldn't keep her hands off him. Because he went off the deep end three weeks before he was to give the Memorial talk (I'm firmly convinced this was the reason) the elders let him twist in the wind for a whole year and reinstated him the week before the next year's Memorial.

    That was a tough year too . . . .

    Thanks again,

    Nina

  • nilfun
    nilfun

    I'm so sorry to hear this..you are looking out for his welfare by not letting the elders have access to him...sending thoughts of comfort and hopes that his recovery goes well...

  • Ephanyminitas
    Ephanyminitas

    Cruzanheart,

    You have my sincere condolences. I can only imagine what you're going through, but I know what your father is going through -- to an extent. See, I have depression and I too have tried to kill myself.

    If you don't suffer with depression, you cannot understand it. Perhaps you can come close, but I doubt that you'll be able to comprehend how a depressed mind works. When I tried to kill myself (alcohol and sleeping pills, plus suffocation), I felt that there was no other choice. I felt that my world was crumbling down on top of me and no other solution would work. Really, it's difficult to explain the hopelessness of it all, but suicide does sometimes feel like the only way out. Heck, in some senses, it IS the only way out, but obviously, it's not the preferred way of handling problems.

    One thing that comes to mind is that your father might not suffer with depression per se. Perhaps he was simply overwhelmed or felt trapped by something. A bout of extreme anxiety or pressure can do this to some people.

    I don't need to tell you this, I know, but approach your father with concern, not anger. Yes, what he tried to do was selfish, but probably felt that his death would actually benefit those around him. Maybe he feels like a burden, maybe his faith is flagging, perhaps old age is frustrating him -- I can't pretend to know. But he needs more than anything to know that he is loved.

  • cruzanheart
    cruzanheart

    Thank you, Ephanyminitas, for your insights. Truly, I wasn't angry with him, just very concerned and my comment was more to show that concern. I assured him of my love and that of our family all day, every time he was awake. You know, "overwhelmed" is a good description of him right now. Big Tex says he's in the same place I was in the early 1990's, when I realized there was something drastically wrong with the Mother Ship but I wasn't in an emotional place to be able to leave it at that time. At his age, I don't expect him to drop it and go, and I'm trying very hard to make sure I don't pressure him to go one way or another.

    We're going to see how he is after his hospital stay and then decide if it's time he moved in with us. We bought the house we're in last year with that in mind: there's a bedroom and bathroom near the front door that is perfect for him and we already call it "Grandpa's room." I decorated it in 1950's Hawaiian schtick (he was in the Navy in WWII and was stationed in Hawaii when I was born in 1955) and he loves it. It will be an adjustment for all of us, but might help us keep a closer eye on him. Of course, moving from a quiet retirement home to a house with two small children, one old dog and one puppy, might send him right over the edge. It gets pretty intense around here in the evenings!

    Love,

    Nina

  • Yerusalyim
    Yerusalyim

    CRUZ,

    My thoguhts and prayers are with you. I hope your dad gets the help he needs to be able to find the resources necessary to want to live. God Bless.

    Mike

  • Nanoprobe
    Nanoprobe

    Nina

    I turned on the computer and read this and I am so sad. For you For your poor dad. I guess there is only so much crap anyone can endure. Let's go to lunch (if you can work it in) I'm in town my son had surgery but he's doing fine. I'll email you

  • Jesika
    Jesika

    OMG!!!!!!!! I have known you and Big TX since I was 4yrs old, and I am soooooooooooooooooo sorry this has happened. If you need me or anything you have my #. Give your dad my love and I hope to speak with you guys very soon if you are up to it. You and Big Tx have been their for me, and I would love to return that to you. Please let me know if their is anything I can do. I can watch the kids for you and they can come over here and play with Jessie to give you some time to be alone together.

    Love,

    Jesika

  • FreeFallin
    FreeFallin

    (((((((((((((Cruzanheart)))))))))))))

    FreeFallin

  • Farkel
    Farkel

    cruzanheart,

    This breaks my heart and again proves that window-washer elders have no business giving spiritual or emotional comfort for people who are hurting.

    The Watchtower Printing Corporation will leave them all helpless and ready-to-hang when the you-know-what finally goes down, yet this same Watchtower Printing Corporation is the one who "trained" them and elevated them to the god-like status for the R&F membership for decades.

    My own father passed away on September 4 last year and he was 77. He died a loyal, braindead dub. I feel for you in ways most people will not know. He was a loyal dub for almost fifty years and he never got visits from dubs in his congregation in his last decade, in the years where he couldn't provide the parties and pay for all the food and entertainment for those blood-sucking, materialistic, cold-blooded, blood-sucking JWs who don't give a shit about anyone but themselves.

    Farkel

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