Oh, Cruzanheart..
I am so sorry.
Last night my dad tried to commit suicide
by cruzanheart 38 Replies latest jw friends
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sunshineToo
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You'd must be going through a lot now. I hope your dad gets better soon.
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AGuest
"Please say a prayer for him..."
Of course. And may you... and he... have peace.
Your servant and a slave of Christ,
SJ
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plmkrzy
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TheOldHippie
Farkel, we have exchanged e-mails on a similar occurence recently - you know what we are talking about. You also know I would not have used quite the same words as you did, but then you also know that we are in agreement on this one.
I am sorry to hear this, quite simply very sorry. OK, I'm what some of you yell at as a dub, but those of you with whom I have exchanged more private messages, know there are more sides to a case than meet the eye (sure a wrong sentence, but I guess the "enlightened ones" can understand what I try to tell in this foreign language). Please receive my honest statement that I am sorry when I hear such things. They should not occur. They are what I have been trying to write about all the time.
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Xandria
Cruz and Family:
I am so sorry to hear that you are going through this. I know that it is not easy and you are asking yourself why. But if someone doesnt communicate or give you some ideal you cannot read their mind.
I have made countless posts on suicide. Elder suicide is one of the most overlooked mental health issues. Elder suicide is at an all time high. Due to many illnesses, changes in life etc.; elderly people face so much and some opt to take the option of suicide.
Here are some places you can ask questions to and even get help. We are hear if you need to talk.
Xandria
Edited by - xandria on 20 September 2002 2:34:30
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LyinEyes
I am very sorry to hear about your dad. I was triggered tonite about another suicide attempt by a sister who is my dad's age, I have know her since childhood. It troubled me deeply , but the feelings I had didnt come out until a few glasses of wine. I know , not the best way to deal with emotions, but you think, I will have a few drinks , relax, and then a certain song comes on and brings the feeling to the surface. My own mother committed suicide at my very age and it is haunting me at every moment this time of year. I feel I need to understand one thing , WHY? I feel guilt , sorror , anger and heartache all at the same time. I can only image what your dad is feeling, I am just now at 35 feeling my age, I never thought I would out live my mother. I felt I was doomed to her fate, she killed herself at 35 , so I am almost at the age she was when she died. I never feared getting older, weaker , and dependant on others for my basic needs. You can only image what an elderly person must feel, thinking that the new world should have been here by now. I know one day we all will face our fade out into the other side. It must be confusing, and bittersweet. I hope you can get to your dad and tell him of your love and understand what he must have been feeling at the time. I know when I found out my mom had been drinking and mixing pills the nite she died, I hung up on her, mad as hell. A few minutes , I called her back and said I was sorry and didnt mean to be so harsh to her, I knew she was going thru her own hell, and I loved her. She told me she loved me to and would talk to me the next day and we would find a way to make things better. I felt good and I still feel a sense of peace between us , even thou she did end her own life. The reason, I will never really know , there was no note, not a clue to the real reason, I think I know why.
Help your dad, stand in his corner and tell the medical staff what a cult the man has been in all his life and how he must feel. Tell them of the mind control , of the works you have to do to make it into this paradise. Tell them he is not exagerating this, it is true, the WT does promise all these things , yet many see , too late, that it is all a lie, and it is a scarey place.
Sorry for being so blunt, I dont mean to be, but there are too many suicides happening, because the WT, the local elders, don't care. They reallly don't care, they are not qualified to help these precious ones as your father. Hold that man dear and tell him you love him.
(((((((((((((((( Hugs))))))))))))))))))))) LyinEyes,,,,,,,,, Dede
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Marilyn
Farkel is so right on this one. The loving congregation isn't interested in you unless you are donating buckets or have your house available for book studies and circuit overseers accom and keep up the charade 100%. My parents are having a really bad time lately and don't go to meetings. Mum has cancer and dad (81) is trying to look after her. Suffice to say: Farkel is right.
I just wanted to say how inspiring your dad is. So he had an affair at age 75? Did he knock off the old girls husband to have it - like David did? Geez. What a humourless lot elders are. I swear their main motivation is jealousy. Well done grand-dad is what I say. Your mom is off the planet - I saw the movie Iris recently. He has suffered a lot with your mom - so what if he indulges himself briefly? Who has he hurt? Does it make him a bad man?. No way.
Try not to worry too much. My husbands mother did the same thing abut 10 yrs ago. She thought she was a burden on Society. But having attempted it once, she is now content to be a burden on Society. Why shouldn't she be? She paid her taxes! It might be that this will help your dad to get his mind sorted. Can you get him on a computer??? We'll look after him!!!!
warmest thoughts to you and your darling dad
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gumby
Crusinheart:
Don't you have to wonder sometimes how much people like your father......REALLY believe what they think they believe? When I was a dub you thought that Elders, CO's, the annointed, were all so strong or they wouldn't be what they are.
They are as vulnerable as the rank and file. It's so sad the way this Organisation is set up. You never have any self worth because of the way it's system is structured. Their love is based on a command and duty to do so, and how to carry out their love is directed.
Your dad doesn't feel appreciated or loved enough to go on. To be honest with you....if I were in his shoes with a wife such as your mother and a congregation of people that didn't think of me....I wouldn't have lasted nearly as long as he has.
Give him our love if you are able to. Please keep us posted and take care.
Gumby
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QUEENIE
MY brother Larry nw decd tried to kill himself so I know what it does to the rest of his caring family boy do I know...I got go get my diabetic shoes and socs soo must finish getting ready 4 the day but e-mail me if you need to cry on my shoulder at [email protected] ((((((((HUGS))))))