Discrediting Credibility - Telling Stories Safely

Celtic

It has long appeared to me that some here within this community and possibly lurkers too might find this forum a toally unsafe platform upon which to let their personal stories be told for fear of attack, disbelief or other derogatory and unsavoury comments, even on behalf of those ones who really should know better.

Now, why is it these days, and I'm sure I'm not the only one who experiences this, that I feel that I do not want to tell publicly my full personal story and/or experience relating to upbringing with the jw's? Why am I fearful of attack? Why am I fearful of disbelief? Why, in this, of all communities do I feel unable to express my true thoughts and feelings often? Could it be that on so many occassions I have heard the utmost rudeness even if I so much as go one footstep down the path of revealing why I believe the WTO is 'Satans' organisation based upon my personal and felt experiences? Why should I put up with the ridicule, the hurtful remarks and comments that try to discredit my understanding of the issues? In a nutshell, why do I have this level of distrust these days?

Surely, it is an enormously brave and corageous step when we speak out about the various forms of abuse leveraged upon us. Then, why is it that some discredit us and then only serve to drive our stories further underground?

What is the point of these actions and whose bloody side are they really on here?

Just like to know!!

Mark Price / Cornwall UK

Community Action Network UK

plmkrzy

Celtic I know to well both sides of this scenario and I couldn't tell you why people attack others the way they do

except to say everyone is maybe on different levels regarding what ever the subject may be, and not often enough are any of us at the same place, at the same time, dealing with the exact same things.

I've been viciously attacked many times over the years for saying too much too soon and in the wrong place in front of the wrong people all because I thought just being right was good enough.

I was an idealist. And very naive.

And I get attacked for sharing that to.

I figure we each have to just learn that, accept it, and if someone wants to condemn another for what ever reason then let them, put it aside and move on. There are far to many people willing to be a lot more understanding that we can spend our time with. And we do not have to stay with abusive people nor do we have to stay around abusive people. That strangely enough is one of the hardest things a survivor learns and one of the first things. We do not have to put up with abusive people. We can move on and CHOSE to be around more positive people who don't have a thirst to ridicule and batter.

It's the same thing with the abuser we get away from. An abusive person is someone desperate to be in control. Also with my abusers they were the first to launch an attack on anyone who spoke up and expressed an opinion in an area they dominated. Abuse.

Its all about control and power. When my ex began losing power and it became apparent, that was the worst and most abusive time and the most dangerous for my children and me. The scariest part of all was being under the same roof with someone thats capable of the sickest acts on another person and knowing that the people you need to reach out to for help are brainwashed into believing the monster is a wonderful person who wouldn't hurt a fly and rather then helping you, they end up helping the abuser and putting you in even more danger. The fear of not being able to protect my children was something that was used to paralyze me.

When I was at a point where I thought I had absolutely nowhere left to go except death, was the time when I became the most dangerous for my abuser but it was something he had not counted on. I was ready mentally to kill him and go to prison for it. I thought it was my only way out and the only way I could keep him away from my kids. If it were not for the help of someone who knew me 20 years prior to my situation and helped get me and my kids get out and hide for several years, I would be in prison right now, he would be dead. That may not sound like much to some but my kids would have a dead, once abusive dad who once tried to burn them while they slept, and then added to that a now mother in prison for murdering him. What a life they would have to grow up with

But then again maybe some people would rather just fight.

regards plum

Edited by - plmkrzy on 30 September 2002 14:7:50

MARTINLEYSHON

Hey Mark

Rang you the other day for a chat, guess you were busy.

I have discovered through my journey on this board that some of the users are just not worth my valuable time. I have identified the idiots, the ones whose incomprehensible eccentric remarks, which serve no purpose whatsoever, and erased them from my daily reading. If I see their posts I by pass. Simple as.

Not wishing to pin point any perticular country, but I think you know whom I am refering too.

Martin

Celtic

Aye, as said Martin and Englishman will concur, we think we may be in agreement that their communication base is coming from an altogether different perspective, upon which they are unable to see the potentiality of their intended outcomes as interpretated within another culture. Enough said for now.

Kind regards

Mark Price / Community Action Network UK

http://www.can-online.org.uk

SixofNine

Aye, as said Martin and Englishman will concur, we think we may be in agreement that their communication base is coming from an altogether different perspective, upon which they are unable to see the potentiality of their intended outcomes as interpretated within another culture.

I've been speaking English for almost 40 years now. When someone has to resort to the word usage you resort to, Celty, my bullshit detector goes into overdrive. Your language usage is more evasive than the WT's. That's not a good reflection on you.

This is not about other cultures. I think you've been playing the same game our "opera diva" friend did in the recent past. What you look to be doing right now, with all these post, is what we here in America call "circling the wagons". A defensive position one takes when one is caught.

Celtic

Not at all SixofNine, you simply seem to miss the point. Let me assure you. There is no connection whatsoever between this post and my other post of today, that simply is your own unfounded suspicion. Really, I cannot work out why you should be so aggressive about this?

Mark Price (CAN) UK

ThiChi

For what its worth, there are many posters here that appreciate and encourage these posts. I hope we dont throw the baby out with the bath water!

Remember, many here have been hurt so much by the WT that some, unknowingly act or react the same way as they were treated for so many years. I am not excusing their conduct, I am offering some insight as to why we should look at these persons in a different light!

MARTINLEYSHON

I have to elucidate sixofnine.

You are extracting from celtics post something that is not there. Are you taking this personally? Are you therefore complicit ? Not wanting to be antagonistical or indeed indifferent to your remarks, but I do suspect a somewhat irregular inference in your reply. All Celtic and indeed I are saying is that some of the populace that use this board are highly suspicious to us in their motives, that on occasion leave a rather distasteful feeling in ones mouth.

detective

Sneetches.

Nothing like the us versus them mentality.

I'm going to go have a cup of tea now.

Celtic

Tis the best recipe, after a storm in a teacup, a good ole cup of steaming hot tea, aye, very nice!!

Celty

Discrediting Credibility - Telling Stories Safely

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