To Mr. Bowen...

by AGuest 23 Replies latest jw friends

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  AGuest

  May you have peace!

  I have been directed by my Lord to say to you:

  While in truth, there is no "law" for you to follow, your "desire" to "do just so" according to law can be fulfilled in you sending a copy of your letter to all branches of the WTBTS, certified, return receipt requested. In doing so, you will have fulfilled your obligation to "speak to the congregation"... in full..., as recorded to have been directed by my Lord, and as such "congregation" is recognized by that organization, according to the "law" that that organization supposedly follows.

  In truth, however, they have proven themselves to be your "enemy"... as well as the enemy of many, including those sent to them... by their "hatred" of such ones, as borne out in their refusal to even entertain an ear toward the complaints against them. It does not matter whether they are guilty or not, or whether they consider themselves guilty or not. The "law" that would apply is borne out in the words of my Lord as recorded at Matthew 5:23, 24:

  "Therefore if thou bring thy gift to the altar, and there rememberest that thy brother hath ought against thee; leave there thy gift before the altar, and go thy way; first be reconciled to thy brother, and then come and offer thy gift."

  Of course, such ones do not consider you a brother, if for no other reason than that you have brought an accusation against them. But even if you were truly their enemy, they should apply the "rule" at Matthew 5:43-48. The error, then, is indeed theirs... and you may go your way... in peace!

  I, myself, SJ, have spoken it to you just as I have heard it from my Lord, JAHESHUA MISCHAJAH, Son of the Most Holy One of Israel, whose name is JAH...of Armies, and His Christ.

  Again, I bid you peace,

  YOUR servant, as I am servant to all those of the Household of God, Israel, and a slave of Christ,

  SJ

  Edited by - Simon on 5 October 2002 4:2:21
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  unclebruce

  g'day "myself, SJ, have spoken it to you just as I have heard it from my Lord, JAHESHUA MISCHAJAH, Son of the Most Holy One of Israel, whose name is JAH...of Armies, and His Christ",

  excuse me butt'n in (i'm not bill bowden or a silent limb or nuth'n llike that) Just wanted to say something about the meat in your sandwich (took a while to wade through the holy swamp of hyperbolious bolloks but i think i found it .. that bit about "sending a copy of your letter to all branches of the WTBTS, certified, return receipt requested"

  I'm jiggy wid that maam but I'd be surprised if Mr.BB is terribly concerned about fullfilling his "obligations" to the law" of YOUR Lord high humbuga ;)

  Again, I bid you peas,

  YOUR saviour, as I am saviour to all those of the Household of GoB and the Impaled slaves of Christ.

  UB
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  JT

  I, myself, SJ, have spoken it to you just as I have heard it from my Lord, JAHESHUA MISCHAJAH, Son of the Most Holy One of Israel, whose name is JAH...of Armies, and His Christ.

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  This post is DEEEEEP!!!

  While I personally have never smoke "WEED"--- from what i am told by those who have

  sometimes you get messages like the above from god, while i can't say if this person is smoking "WEED" but the Similarities are striking- smile
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  imanaliento

  if it's a weed it's laced with something else.
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  Windchaser

  So, Jim, how's the weather in Massachusetts?
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  BATHORY

  It has been well established here that the vast majority of participants on this forum are in full support of the silentlamb cause.

  Under his control and direction he is handling a very sensative issue and probably the most potentially damaging public relations disaster that the WT has evry had, not to mention the invariable lawsuits to come.

  Having said that, bill as the representative of that cause, i believe has a responsibility to those ones he speaks for, and it certainly could be argued ( to a lesser degree ), to those that actively follow and subscibe to his agenda.

  Most political and religious organisations have people employed inhouse that work to the benefit of their vision called advisors.

  I believe bills number one advisors consist of those mature ones in this forum.

  My humble view is that the letter he has sent regarding the GB member and pedo acts, works to his detrement because he is currently propagating a war with the WT mainly via the use of the media.

  Taking into account all possible outcomes of that recent letter, i believe the most probable OVERALL effect he will elicit within the JW community and their management will be a portrayal of him as an angry, evil apostate at worst, a loose cannon at best. In any event it does not help his aim, UNLESS this was a mitigation action, because then in is inherent that evidence will be brought forward before a mediator and the laws of the land will be fullfilled.

  Isnt that sort of one of the points here, that the law and judicial system of the land should be involved with such accusations ???

  What is he thinking when he invites active elders to that judicial meeting ??? Knowing the way the WT operates does he expect to, AT THIS EARLY STAGE for that tactic to be effective ??? If not he has forgone or abated the eficacy of that good opportunity and supprise factor he would have had latter when his cases against the GB members was better established ! An ultimate wild card methinks he would have had !

  See it has so much less to do with his rights, or as you state " truth " where there is no law, as much as it has to do with the most effective campain he can muster and co-ordinate to expose them for whom they are, hence reforming their policy / position on the matter ( which BTW has already begun and been improved on, thanks to his well crafted display of the propaganda we have already witnessed ) so that the CHILDREN will have a lesser probability of abuse possibilities.

  As he has mention himself, he does not want to bring down the religion or start a new one. Therefore my humble advise to him, offered in a spirit of support, is that it may be time for serious mitigation, not self indulgent mud slinging.
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  JT

  it's a weed it's laced with something else.

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  we agree
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  pomegranate

  We be diggin' on uncle bruce. Yay bruce, yay!
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  unclebruce

  G'day Bathory,

  Interesting thoughts from someone who cares. (as you know this little vigilante doesn't get excited over issues he can't control ... each look after his own i say*)

  - "... the most probable OVERALL effect he will elicit within the JW community and their management will be a portrayal of him as an angry, evil apostate at worst, a loose cannon at best. In any event it does not help his aim, UNLESS this was a mitigation action, because then in is inherent that evidence will be brought forward before a mediator and the laws of the land will be fullfilled."

  fair enough (it's his business i guess) I liked the way you describe the system in the words "the JW community and thier management"

  You're a smart guy and i can't for the life of me see what keeps you shackled (family connections aside)

  you touch on many deep truths my brother and i wish you and yours well! unc.

  * easy for me to say - i'm not being "managed" no more
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  AGuest

  Apparently (Unk and Bathory... and peace to you!)...

  Mr. Bowens "summons" is indicative of his desire to follow their laws, as well as God's, as they have set them out themselves. My understanding is that you can't have it both ways: either you are under law... or you are not. Since this is the path chosen, to bring the GB "before the congregation," Mr. Bowen should not exclude those considered who apparently have some... ummmm, "position"... with that congregation.

  Not that it matters, other than HIS desire to do "just so," which is evident.

  Again, I bid you peace!

  SJ, a slave of Christ, who doesn't need weed (of either the cannabis/psychadelic or the thistle/dandelion "type") to "hear" the Spirit... or obey it... and to be quite honest, rather marvels at those who do...