JW Youths Funeral: "cause he wasnt going t...

by mamashel 17 Replies latest jw friends

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  mamashel

  This is just an update on an earlier post about jw youth dies in car crash. Long story short, he was killed when his car struck a pole because he fell asleep at the wheel. His father had recently kicked him out of the house (he was only 18) becuase he was missing meetings.

  My daughter and her boyfriend ran into some jw's that knew him and went to the funeral, the first thing out of her stinking mouth was "well, its sad, but he wasnt going to the meetings was he".

  She was trying to get the point across to my daughter and her boyfriend that something was going to happen to them if they didnt come back to the meetings. That kind of garbage just makes me so mad, i hope i dont run into to any of them, because i am afraid my rage would take over in the conversation.

  Just another stupid scare tactic they use to try and keep you in.

  Just venting, thanks

  Shelley
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  PurpleV

  His father had recently kicked him out of the house (he was only 18) becuase he was missing meetings.

  That father is going to have nightmares for the rest of his life.

  Bastards. Can I vent too?
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  Brymichmom

  That attitude is so prevelant among JW's. When my sister's 18 month old son died in 1991, my mother tried to say it was because my sister was DF'd; the old "discipline from Jehovah" because he "disciplines the ones he loves". Yeah right!

  Right now my mother has been threatening me that something bad is going to happen to me. She recently found out that I facilitate a support group in Los Angeles and she found out about my websites. So she called my DF'd sister in a huff and made threats in "Jehovah's" behalf and that I'd better watch my back because I've rebelled against "the organization". (Hey it does sound like the mafia, doesn't it?)

  There are no feelings of love, empathy or sympathy within the WT organization. If one isn't 100% in an organizational frame of mind, and you miss meetings, then no one cares if something bad happens to you. They chalk it up to a punishment from "Jehovah" because you missed meetings. So the urban lore and legends go on and on to scare you into stayng with this "organization."

  Cynthia
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  scootergirl

  I remember having conversations w/my mother years after I had a string of bad things happen to me and her reasoning was the same as those stated here. I had to explain to her that what happened to me in my life DID NOT HAPPEN because I was no longer a dub......they just happened. They could happen to anyone. What narrow minded thinking...........
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  Brymichmom

  A little over four years ago, my 39 year old cousin who had been a PO/elder and in charge of translation to the deaf died of acute leukemia. My cousin was 100% an organizational man, yet he died (and very quickly I might add) of a terrible illness. He actually died six weeks after his initial diagnosis, refusing blood the whole time. He left a wife and two teenaged sons.

  Bad things happen to JW elders too. Bad things can happen to anyone. I have the story posted on the WT Victim's Memorial on AJWRB: http://www.ajwrb.org/victims/moreburns.html

  Cynthia
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  Gopher

  Mamashel,

  You're right the "point" makes no sense. It is a man-made teaching of JW's, and it is a bit (no very much) superstitious !!

  If they'd even dare crack open their Bible, it teaches that bad things happen to both good and bad people, that unforeseen occurrence befalls them all, that the swift do not have the battle or the mighty the race. I think it's Ecclesiastes chapter 9.

  Of course that's just common sense.
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  reagan_oconnor

  A friend just e-mailed me that the JWs sound like the Mafia.

  On 9-11-01 my mother called to make sure I was OK (they evacuated my building downtown after the attacks in NYC). She commented that she was worried about whether or not there were any "brothers & sisters who died." I waited a beat, then said, "What about the rest of the people who died?" "Oh, of course, them, too."

  A while back an old JW friend who quit attending had a miscarriage and lots of people suggested that it was b/c she had married a "worldy" man. Puhleeese! Who are these crackpots?!

  ~reagan
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  Scully

  Oddly enough, the worst things that happened to me, all happened while I was an exemplary JW, at the hands of other JWs.

  So how do they rationalize that?

  • Satan is testing your faith. Go in service more. Pray more. Study harder.
  • Time and unforeseen occurrances. Go in service more. Pray more. Study harder.
  • Jehovah is refining his people. Go in service more. Pray more. Study harder.

  None of it worked. But now that things are SO MUCH BETTER than they ever were when I was a JW, to the average dub, my life is a time bomb waiting to explode. They can't stand that I'm happy without them. They can't stand that I'm successful without them. They can't stand that my kids are well-adjusted without them. They can't stand that I've worked hard and gotten good results without them. They can't stand that I have "blessings" that they don't have, despite the fact that they go to all the meetings and out in service and study hard and pray all the time.

  Because of that underlying jealousy, envy and covetousness, they are just WAITING for my life to fall apart, and have me lose everything I have. Then they'll gloat about it and tell everyone how "Jehovah" gave me my come-uppance. They'll use it as a "sign" to keep their own behaviour in check.

  And they say they aren't superstitous!!

  Love, Scully
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  BeautifulGarbage

  And what of those good things that happen to those that don't go to meetings?

  Anyway.

  I have two JW cousins. Sisters. One is a zealot and the other is "weak". The Weak one borrowed some money from the Zealot. The Zealot made it clear that if the weak one went to meetings more regularly she would allow more time for the loan to be paid back. If not, she was expecting her money ASAP.

  I nudged The Weak one gently and said "well, maybe if you pioneer she will forgive the loan completely". She retorted back to me "There's not enough money to loan to get me to do THAT"

  I'm sorry for the boys death.

  Andee
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  William Penwell

  They are all weak minded, dysfunctional people that can't make a decision or are accountable on their own. It is so easy to blame the Devil for what is wrong and gives credit to God for what is right.

  Will

  Edited by - william penwell on 8 October 2002 15:29:23