Any Malawi/Mexico victims here?

by gumby 15 Replies latest jw friends

  • gumby
    gumby

    Hey Gang,

    Since the Malawi/ Mexico incident was one of the most shocking things we learned from COC and one of the things learned that opened our eyes...I was wondering....

    Are their any victims here or have there been? Can we find some?

    It would be interesting to here from them directly. Randy was supposed to get a section on his site about this but I guess it didn't happen.

  • TTBoy
    TTBoy

    Not to seem like an a-hole but I highly doubt any people living in Malawi have computers. JWs pictured them as poor, underveloped, ect......

    Welp off to surf and find out about Malawi so I can take my foot out of my mouth if necessary.

    TT

  • gumby
    gumby

    Not to seem like an a-hole but I highly doubt any people living in Malawi have computers.

    Hey TTboy, I thought the same thing as I was typing this thread. However there are some who have escaped from there and settled in the US.

    Mexico DOES have computors. There should be someone from there you would think that dealt with the double standard issue.

  • Gerard
    Gerard

    I was raised in Mexico. Considering the scope of the horror, I don't think Mexican JWs were "victims" other than being at the oposite extreme of the WTs double standard.

    Gerard

  • gumby
    gumby

    Hi Gerard,

    I don't think Mexican JWs were "victims" other than being at the oposite extreme of the WTs double standard.

    Then I would say they WERE victims would'nt you? They are victims of bribery. The government did not ALLOW bribery to crooked officials within their ranks.......yet the Witnesses bribed them.

    They had to live with their consciences, that the 'issue', was the same thing as the Malawi brothers.....only they were ALLOWED to break the rules.......and didn't have to suffer for it........sounds like they WERE victims to me.

    Edited by - Gumby on 9 October 2002 11:56:0

  • Gerard
    Gerard

    I agree that most JW are victims one way or another. But Malawi / Mexico is an example of double standards in which Mexicans had the long end of the stick.

    Again, lets see another double-standard where in Bulgaria the WT gives free choice regarding blood transfusions: http://www.ajwrb.org/basics/abandon.shtml while in the rest of the world . . . well people die to glorify the "top 40 New York bussiness".

    Gerry

  • DJ
    DJ

    Hi Gerard,

    I remember reading that if you are Bulgarian and accept blood, you are not df'd BUT you da'd yourself. I see no difference in teaching here, really. It is just another example of the WT's twisted wording to try to deceive. Dj

  • gumby
    gumby

    DJ...It is just another example of the WT's twisted wording to try to deceive. Dj

    Breaking their own standards so they can continue their work.......they are good at it!

    Their "work" is viewed as having more value than being true to their own policies.....always has.

    I think it's a 'money deal' .....if I'm not mistak'in

  • Gerard
    Gerard

    "The applicant undertook with regard to its stance on blood transfusions to draft a statement for inclusion in its statute providing that members should have free choice in the matter for themselves and their children, without any control or sanction on the part of the association."


    I believe disfellowshiping qualifies as a sanction.


    Post edition: I read the articles, It seems to me he WT used legal language to satisfy Bulgarian requirements to qualify as religious organization but the doctrine remains unchanged. Therefore it seems not a double-standard but an hipocresy case.

    Edited by - Gerard on 9 October 2002 14:27:23

  • Valis
    Valis

    Not to seem like an a-hole but I highly doubt any people living in Malawi have computers.

    No do any of the Malawi "victims" have a pulse...just a quick reminder..

    Sincerely,

    SIncerely,

    District Overbeer of the "a-hole" class

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