Questions about the Taliban/Bin Ladin

bluesapphire

Hi. This information is directed to those of you who are more knowledgable on this subject. I received the following in an email today and wanted to see if anyone else heard of this information and if they believe it's valid. Thanks!

>The US supported Bin Laden and the Taliban for years,
>and viewed them as freedom fighters against the Russians?
>
>As late as 1998, the US was paying the salary of every single Taliban
>official in Afghanistan?
>
>There is more oil and gas in the Caspian Sea area than in Saudi
Arabia,
>but you need a pipeline through Afghanistan to get the oil out.
>
>UNOCAL, a giant American Oil conglomerate, wanted to build a 1000 mile
>long pipeline from the Caspian Sea through Afghanistan to the Arabian
>Sea.
>
>UNOCAL spent $10,000,000,000 on geological surveys for pipeline
>construction, and very nicely courted the Taliban for their support in
>allowing the construction to begin.
>
>All of the leading Taliban officials were in Texas negotiating with
>UNOCAL in 1998.
>
>1998-1999 the Taliban changed its mind and threw UNOCAL out of the
>country and awarded the pipeline project to a company from Argentina.
>
>John Maresca VP of UNOCAL testified before Congress and said no
pipeline
>until the Taliban was gone and a more friendly government was
>established.
>
>1999-2000 The Taliban became the most evil people in the world.
>
>Senior American officials in mid-July told Niaz Naik, a former
Pakistani
>Foreign Secretary, that military action against Afghanistan would go
>ahead by the middle of October.
>
>9/11 WTC disaster... Bush goes to war against Afghanistan even though
>none of the hijackers came from Afghanistan.
>
>Bush blamed Bin Laden but has never offered any proof saying it's a
>"secret".
>
>Taliban offered to negotiate to turn over Bin Laden if we showed them
>some proof. We refused; we bombed.
>
>Bush said: "This is not about nation building. It's about getting the
>terrorists."
>
>We have a new government in Afghanistan.
>
>The leader of that government formerly worked for UNOCAL.
>
>Bush appoints a special envoy to represent the US to deal with that
new
>government, who formerly was the "chief consultant to UNOCAL".
>
>The Bush family acquired their wealth through oil?
>
>Bush's Secretary of Interior was the President of an oil company
before
>going to Washington.
>
>George Bush Sr. now works with the "Carlysle Group" specializing in
huge
>oil investments around the world.
>
>Condoleezza Rice worked for Chevron before going to Washington.
>
>Chevron named one of its newest "supertankers" after Condoleezza.
>
>Dick Cheney worked for the giant oil conglomerate Haliburton before
>becoming VP.
>
>Haliburton gave Cheney $34,000,000, as a farewell gift when he left
>Haliburton.
>
>Haliburton is in the pipeline construction business.
>
>There is $6 Trillion dollars-worth of oil in the Caspian Sea area.
>
>The US government quietly announces Jan 31, 2002 we will support the
>construction of the Trans-Afghanistan pipeline.
>
>President Musharref (Pakistan), and Karrzai, (Afghanistan...ex-Unocal)
>announce agreement to build the proposed gas pipeline from Central
Asia
>to Pakistan via Afghanistan.
>

Elsewhere

Looks like a grammatical equivalent of Numerology... dig deep enough and you can find "coincidences" about just about anything.

John F. Kennedy/Abraham Lincoln coincidences

Abraham Lincoln was elected to Congress in 1846.
John F. Kennedy was elected to Congress in 1946.
Abraham Lincoln was elected President in 1860.
John F. Kennedy was elected President in 1960.
The names Lincoln and Kennedy each contain seven letters.
Both presidents were particularly concerned with civil rights.
Both presidents' wives' lost children both while living in the White House, and after living in the White House.
Mrs. Lincoln advised Mr. Lincoln not to go to the theatre and Mrs. Kennedy advised Mr. Kennedy not to go to Dallas.
Both were succeeded by Southerners.
Both successors were named Johnson.
Andrew Johnson, who succeeded Lincoln, was born in 1808.
Lyndon Johnson, who succeeded Kennedy, was born in 1908.
Both Johnsons were from towns that were 15 minutes from Johnson City, Tennessee
Both Johnsons faced the next election against men whose names began with "G"
(Grant and Goldwater.)
Both successors left the presidency in disgrace without running for reelection.
Abraham Lincoln died in 1865.
Andrew Johnson died in 1875.
John F. Kennedy died in 1963;
Lyndon Johnson died in 1973.
Both presidents were shot on a Friday.
Both presidents were shot in the head.
Both presidents were shot while seated next to their wife.
Both presidents were assassinated by Southerners.
Both assassins were known by three names, both names contain fifteen letters.
Both Booth and Oswald were assassinated before their trials.
Both assassins initials add up to a total of 35
(L + H + O = 12 + 8 + 15 = 35)
(J + W + B = 10 + 23 + 2 = 35)
Booth ran from the theater and was caught in a warehouse.
Oswald ran from a warehouse and was caught in a theater.
Lincoln was shot in the Ford theatre and Kennedy was shot in a Ford Lincoln.
A 1950 movie called "The Tall Target" is about a New York City detective
foiling a plot to assassinate President-elect Lincoln.
The detective's name is John Kennedy.(special thanks to Oryx for e-mailing this to me)

Crazy151drinker

While the U.S. did support the Afghans during the Soviet Occupation (thus giving them their own Vietnam) this is hardley evidence of some great oil conspiracy. When you figure that the Taliban have been around for awhile- even during the Clinton years- its pretty lame to try to tie it into some great oil conspiracy headed by Bush. Yes bush has ties to the industry, but then so does every other congressman. Its like saying that Texans were behind the attacks so they could have another oil boom. Its silly. The issue of attacking the Taliban was about their support of Bin Ladin. If OIL was the true goal, we would have stayed in IRAQ in 91.

Realist

bluesapphire,

this surprises you?

there were probably several reason why Bush decided to attack afghanistan without solid evidence against bin laden or the taliban.

a) he had to attack someone since the US public screamed for revenge.

b) the US gets additional bases in the area.

c) the oil buisness is without doubt of interest to Bush and the government.

d) they could pretend they also do it so they can help the poor people in that country against the taliban.

Double Edge

>Bush blamed Bin Laden but has never offered any proof saying it's a
>"secret".

Not True. There's a tape that was put on the air that shows Bin Laden and his cronies sitting around on their butts praising the execution of their plans for the towers... "better than they expected".

Satanus

Al queda means 'the base'. When volunteer arabs from all over were streaming into afghanistan to fight the russians, w US support, bin laden was working to provide housing, weapons, food, training, etc for them. There was probably a list of names kept, as well. That was 'the base'. But back then, the were called freedom fighters, muja hiddin. Now they are all relabeled terrorists, al qeuda.

SS

Realist

not true...the translation was inaccurate. it is not at all clear that bin and the other guys praised THEIR attack.

Satanus

Double

The tape was presented well after the war started.

 The afghanis were asking for proof before the war.

I worked well on the american public, though.

SS

TTBoy

Yuri - set em straight

TT

Yerusalyim

The US Did NOT in fact support the Taliban against the Soviet Union. In fact, the Taliban didn't exist during that fight, at least not in Afghanistan. The US DID support the Mujahedin, the Holy Warriors. Later, when Russia pulled out fighting broke out between the various Mujahedin factions. The Taliban (meaning "Students") came in from Pakistan to fill the power vacuum. The Taliban formed in the radical Madrashas in Pakistan that formed in many of the refugee camps.

As to the rest of the drivel you poured out, one word ...PROOF. What oil company spent 10 Billion on researching a pipeline?

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