P.S. - I did know Snoozy - before whatever happened - so I misquoted myself before.
Ken - I'm sorry you felt like I was kicking you in the gut........i'm been smacked there a few times myself so I know how it feels.
by mindsweeper 44 Replies latest jw friends
P.S. - I did know Snoozy - before whatever happened - so I misquoted myself before.
Ken - I'm sorry you felt like I was kicking you in the gut........i'm been smacked there a few times myself so I know how it feels.
This person, AlanF, could only be getting certain info from BB. This proves to me that, if my assumption is correct, that I rightly assumed that during the trauma with my son, when also having conversations with BB, he was made aware of my son being in the hospital and having nearly lost him. I rememeber that the big thing that turned me off to mr Bowen was his total lack of concern as to my feelings and my son's welfare. Indeed he bashed me, told me I needed therapy because I would not run from my personal obligations and jump on his bandwagon. Yes, I did intitially agree to help Mr Bowen. Yes, I did back out due to his lack of conceren over my family issues and realization that to me my family needed me much more than Mr Bowen did at the time. I had enough to deal with at that moment than to deal with the abuse victims of the world- including my 78 year old mother- who though still a jw-(and whose personal letters I would nver posts on the internet) is my responsibility because I am the last surviving family she has. It is evil to through such things out to one that has endured what I have. Pure evil. AlanF does not know me and could onl;y be getting his "loose wires" info from Mr Bowen. I will stand by that until proven wrong. That, my friends is why my attitude is so bad toward the likes of BB. He know how to hurt and does not mind jabbing the knife in and twisting it regardless of facts- to hell with truth- to hell with feelings and to hell with anything acccept HIS agenda.
As my son awaits new feet this month I have to have this crap drug up into a public arena. Claims of being a JW in good standing- claims of loose wires- and claims of ????? about my sons health....
Edited by - kelsey007 on 11 October 2002 17:27:12
Kelsey- with all due respect, are you sure its BB? Because, I know BB to be a very different person than the one you seem to know.
The BB I know, although short , sweet & to the point is a kind heart that through his own style helps people to find the answers they're looking for, even though his style is somewhat "abrasive". I know a man that helped me come to grips & deal with one of the most ugly chapters of my life. I hope we're speaking of 2 different BB's, cause that's heartbreaking to hear.
I have come to believe that Mr Bowen has two personalities- one given to those who support him and one reserved for those that choose to not support him. All I can speak from is my personal experience with the man and his lack of compassion toward my circumstances. When I told him of the abuse experienced by my now deceased cousin he was no more compassionate than he was with my family circumstances or my person feelings. I am glad for those who get a better side of the man. My heart goes out to those who have been subjected to what I have- For some time I have felt the man capable of many things- things that I will not refer to here-
If the man truly has the interest of abuse vicitms of the WT at heart then why, if he truly thought that I was in need of therapy, would he choose to condemn me with harsh words? After all he lays claim to being the man of compassion- one who says he sees all to well the damage the WT has done to people. He of all people should use words of compassion when dealing with anyone having suffered the WT or for that matter anyone still suffering the lies of the WT. This baffles me.
Edited by - kelsey007 on 11 October 2002 17:42:45
Actually, I have seen BB get rather rough at times too. Now I do not know about the situation with Kelsey's son or if BB was involved or not. I find BB very funny most of the times. He can be refreshing to read cus his posts are short and often very comical. I do like him a lot. But again, I've seen him get nasty too. We are all human and are not always so great. Ask Jan, I was just horrible to her one time. I do not think I was wrong really, but she certainly wasn't either and I sure got full of myself when I felt she need ME to put her down. I still feel bad about it when I remember it. Lesson learned is that we are all unkind at times. We swear we never will be again and then oops there's a slip up.
I am sorry for you son Kelsey. It must be difficult to watch him struggle right now. I can imagine how I would feel if it were mine. I really do not think you need to explain yourself. If you know you have legitimate reasons for doing something or not doing something and someone is attacking you for it, let them have their damn day. I would think it would be more draining to have to explain myself when under such pressure from my real day to day life. This is the internet, let it go. Your real life is more important.
Kenpo, Dragon...gosh I actually know your real name and do you know if we were to meet in person I'd still call you Kenpo or Dragon, lol....I am so sorry you were hurt. I still don' t think it was deserved. ( I did understand your points on the SL issue really I did but I still felt that the WTS needed the bashing...negative and angry or not, that's all. Your way was likely right but I didn't disagree with the way it was done either, that was all I was saying) Maybe with some time, it will fade away do ya think? And I totally disagree that you have "followers", I take offense to that. But you do have some friends. People who care about you. I happen to care about them all so the whole thing was painful to read. That's why I stepped away for a little while. I still love them all.
Tera
Tera
I agree, I did not think I had followers either. I think I have a great bunch of friends. :)
Take Care
Dragon
Stupid question here - is BB from tim's board the same as bill bowen?
Two different people.
No, BB and Mr. Bowan are two different people.
Hempinstein, I consider you my friend. I consider most of the people I come close to on Timothy's and Simon's boards my friends. It pains me to see so much bad stuff going on. If AlanF had said those things to me, I don't think I could ever come back here, ever again. So, Kelsey is made of better stuff than I am.
I almost posted over at Timothy's about Hemp. Then I thought, He can handle this, he is strong. Now, I see that my friend has been greatly pained by these attacks. I'm sorry, Hempy, that I wasn't there for you. ((((((((Hempster))))))))
Edited by - windchaser on 11 October 2002 18:6:52
For clarification I refer to Bill Bowen as BB here because as to my knowledge the BB from the other board does not post here.