Comments You Will Not Hear at the 10-20 WT Study

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  • blondie
    blondie

    Comments You Will Not Hear at the 10-20-02 WT Study

    "WITHOUT AN ILLUSTRATION HE WOULD NOT SPEAK TO THEM

    "Matthew 13:34

    Introduction

    "Can you recall an illustration you heard, perhaps in a public discourse, many years ago? Effective illustrations are not quickly forgotten." Nor are bad ones.

    Can you remember a bad illustration? Could you tell when the public speaker tried to make up his own rather than used the one provided in the outline?

    Please post the most memorable (bad) illustrations used in a WTS publication or talk at the end of this review.

    WHY JESUS TAUGHT WITH ILLUSTRATIONS

    First, it was prophesied in Psalm 78:2. Second, Jesus said, "I speak to them by the use of illustrations, because, looking, they look in vainneither do they get the sense of it."

    "His listeners had to dig in order to get the full meaning of his words. Humble individuals were moved to ask for more information." Can you imagine an elder "digging" to get the full mean of Jesus words? Since their counsel is based on their personal opinion, digging for Bible information is unnecessary. For those who think that elders research points to discuss at an elders meeting, talk to an elder or ex-elder that posts on this DB. Can you imagine an elder asking for more information? And how many elders rate the adjective "humble"?

    Jesus was hiding this from the Pharisees and we know who the elders resemble. Is it any surprise that the elders "look in vainneither do they get the sense of it."

    SELECTIVE USE OF DETAILS

    "They did not yet have the advantage of consulting a written record to remind them of the things he said." Even with a written record, few JWs remember what they have heard. That is why the WTS has to repeat it 5 times a week, 52 weeks a year.

    "Jesus left out nonessential details." Then why is it that every talk at the KH, assembly, convention, are the same details over and over. Meetings, meetings, meetings.

    If anyone has read one of the so-called WTS study books about prophetic books of the Bible, they know that the WTS fogs the issue with details, unrelated details many times. Fred Franz was the detail man in my opinion. Without details, Fred Franz could not speak or write.

    DRAWN FROM EVERYDAY LIFE

    Jesus did "see his mother prepare leavened bread" and did "watch the fishermen as the let down their nets" and did "observe children playing in the marketplace." How can the writers of the WTS publications say the same living in their isolated ivory tower at Bethel? What could they write about, "flushing thoroughly," "squeeging the shower after a shower," "only 3 items on a dresser," room bidding, scavenging, etc. People at Bethel live such unnatural lives, how could any illustrations they use mean anything to the rank-and-file in the congregations?

    DRAWN FROM CREATION

    Of course, the illustration the WTS highlights is that of a shepherd, "the most tender of Jesus illustrations." They highlight how the sheep know the shepherds voice. The only way the "sheep" at the KH know the elders voice is from the platform. Elders are so busy before and after the meeting, that you will not hear their voice off the platform unless its to grab you and go to the backroom. So remember, the voice we need to recognize and obey is Jesus and his words are found only in the Bible. Where the elders and the WTS publications agree with the Bible, fine, but be discerning. Know the Bible well so you can tell when an elder is braying, whoops, saying something that it has the sound of Jesus voice.

    DRAWN FROM EVENTS KNOWN TO HIS HEARERS

    This implies that Jesus knew his hearers well. How many elders know/knew your address and phone number? I can remember one elder always calling to get the number of someone in the book study group. I asked once if I could just make up a list for him to post by the phone rather than have him interrupting us at dinner 3 times a week. He certainly didnt know the appearance of his flock, or their phone number.

    So from the last few articles, we can see that at least the WTS sees from Jesus example what a good/great teacher is like. Next week we will see how it should be applied and we will see if the WTS as an organization and JWs get the point. (We get to see what the WTS calls logical reasoning and how to help an audience "think and reason.")

  • PurpleV
    PurpleV

    Blondie

    I've only been posting a short while, but lurking a lot longer. I take it you still go to the KH? May I also assume you do it for family?

    I guess I want to know, how do you stand it? I mean, listening to that stuff... going to the hall... do you go out in service?

    Not that I don't appreciate hearing stuff from the "inside," I DO! I just wondered, hope you don't mind my asking. If you do, just tell me to mind my own dang bidness!

    Hugs, V

  • blondie
    blondie

    Thanks for asking, PurpleV. Yes, I am still "in" but have been "out" mentally for some time. The dissonance gets to me that's why I do this little review. It's my barrier of protection against the crap. There are some others here that are in the same situation. I am easing on down the road. I don't want to DA or be DF'd. I have no desire to try and save anyone from the WTS or to try to change the organization. Each person has to come to the "light" on their own about the hypocrisy. There are some sincere, deluded individuals, but nothing I could say or do will get them out. Family is definitely not an issue. Some of the best examples of hypocrisy in the WTS are my family.

    I hope my little review doesn't disturb anybody who is already gone.

    Blondie

    "don't carry nothing that will be load, just ease on down the road"

  • Dutchie
    Dutchie

    Blondie, brilliant as always.

    Thank you.

  • PurpleV
    PurpleV

    Blondie

    Thanks very much for your candid answer . I can relate; except my reasons were for family.

    There are some others here that are in the same situation

    That must be very comforting.

    I hope my little review doesn't disturb anybody who is already gone.

    Me too. I wish you well on your journey. I hope that one day you will enjoy the fruits of the freedom you will enjoy should you ever choose to sever your ties. In the meantime, I salute you; you seem like a very fair minded and loving poster. I look forward to more conversations with you.

    Hugs, V

  • blondie
    blondie

    Thanks, Dutchie. This is me blushing.

  • crownboy
    crownboy

    Hey blondie, we are in the same situation, it seems (physically in, mentally out. I live with my parents.). For the most part, I try to go to as few meetings as is humanly possible. I haven't been to Sunday meeting for like 4 weeks now, so I'll probably have to make an appearance this Sunday to get my parents off my back . Your weekly posts are the only "personal study" I usually do, so thanks for the insight.

  • blondie
    blondie

    Thanks, PurpleV. This is me really blushing.

    I have a few more stages to go. Hopefully, next year I will not need my little reviews any more.

  • blondie
    blondie

    Wow, thanks crownboy. Pretty soon I'll just have to put a big red face here. Ooh, that one is pretty angry. If I remember right, you are going to school and living at home. Yes, that is hard. Well, be sure to prepare yourself emotionally for the time you finish school and can be on your own. Your parents may reject you completely. So form a social base from school, work, etc., that can help you weather that storm. I'm much older and have cut my emotional ties long ago.

    The best defense with JW friends and relatives is to know the Bible well, to be able to show them where it doesn't support their views and always remember that actions speak louder than words.

    BTW, what are you studying? Have you chosen a major yet?

    Blondie(this is my elderette face)

  • crownboy
    crownboy

    BTW, what are you studying? Have you chosen a major yet?

    Well, I plan on going to law school, so my major isn't important, but I've chosen English Literature since I'm a big reader and all.

    I doubt my parents are the type to shun me completely, but I know there will be some change, but I'm prepared. For pretty much all my life most of my friends have been non-JW's, so no problems there.

    BTW, why do you still go?

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