by teejay 26 Replies latest jw friends
Politics aside, Francois, if you're going to bash TH for his spelling, at least get it right.
He incorrectly used an apostrophe, not a comma.
All I've heard so far is right-wing/left-wing talk radio re-hashed. Anyone have an original thought? Care to offer a solution other than hating Clinton or Bush (or Hillary)?
Wasa
TH - Your remarks got just the response they deserved.
Oh really? So I personally attacked you Frank? I don't think I ever mentioned your name at all in any of my post.
Wasa,
All I've heard so far is right-wing/left-wing talk radio re-hashed. Anyone have an original thought? Care to offer a solution other than hating Clinton or Bush (or Hillary)?
Very good point!
Geez, politics is like choosing which side of two armed camps your gonna fight on. No wonder compromise is so hard and the country is always taking a zig zag course, the continual political cold war between the parties is damaging the country. Do things always have to be either/or?
Here in Florida the legislature just loves quick fixes, I don't know if it's because they want the public to see them doing something, instead of as they did recently almost nothing, or if it's because they're too stupid to think long term. They are divided by party, special interests, local interests, and the highest interest of all: getting re-elected. They spent so much time this year bickering and discussing things like requiring each school to display a framed patriotic quote (of course the exact size of the frame etc. was discussed in detail), and other nonsense that they ran out of time! The Governor reprimanded them and called them back in special session (at added cost to the public) because the important business they needed to do did not get done. Florida is a Mickey Mouse State with or without Disney.
After leaving the Witnesses I took a good look at politics and politicians and well, the American people for the most part are either getting the shaft or are getting what they deserve, not too sure which. Probably a little bit of both.
IW
Edited by - IslandWoman on 21 October 2002 10:43:24
The following is a post by myself on H2O in approximately 1998. It contains some new thoughts relating to Bill Clinton in italics.
History repeats itself. The scripts upon which men act out on the stage of life are continuously being reenacted by others throughout the course of history. Recordings of life events are replayed with new characters. Similar things occur to meet similar circumstances.
Nothing is new under the sun. This explains why stories of Messiah like figures predated Christ as many other deliverers of the past had enacted the Deliverers script aforetime. Some characters to play the role of deliverer in times past was Moses the deliverer of the Jews from bondage in Egypt,
There was Abraham Lincoln having freed the slaves in the Civil War, Cyrus and Alexander the Great, and Napolean. Other liberators and deliverers of a non-violent order in the 20th century were Ghandi, Martin Luther King, John F Kennedy, Robert Kennedy, Nelson Mandela, and many more.
The many more included in my mind at the time and is now supported by his induction into the Black Hall of fame Bill Clinton. Congatulations Bill...... You deserve it.
All who would play the role of the liberator are directed by the invisible spirit producers and directors of God's grand drama of life to conform to the major themes in the play. It is in this manner that history can be seen repeating itself. Almost invariably these individuals were seen as answers to someone's prophecies biblical and otherwise. Almost invariably their lives were cut short almost immediately after their major contributions before witnessing the grand finale of the movement they had begun. As a attestation to this phenomenon we have the words of a popular song of the 60s written by Dick Holler. It was entitled Abraham, Martin and John (Liberators all).
Has anybody here seen my old friend Abraham?(Lincoln)
Can you tell me where he's gone?
He freed a lot of people,
But it seems the good die young,
But I just look around and he's gone.
Has anybody here seen my old friend John? (Kennedy)
Can you tell me where he's gone?
He freed a lot of people,
But it seems the good die young
But I just looked around and he's gone.
Has anybody here seen my old friend Martin? (L. King)
Can you tell me where he's gone?
He freed a lot of people,
But it seems the good die young
But just looked around and he's gone.
Didn't you love the things that they stood for?
Didn't they try to find some good for you and me?
And we'll be free,
Someday soon, it's gonna be One day.
Has anybody seen my old friend Bobby (Kennedy)
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin'
Up over the hill
With Abraham, Martin, and John
Martin Luther King was a very interesting example of someone who was well aware of spirit recording that was directing his life. He in very obvious ways believed that somehow he was Moses sent to deliver God's people (all whose hearts were right with God that are being unfairly oppressed). Many times these men identified in strong ways to other deliverers which preceeded them.
Another characteristic of many of these deliverers
is their known and unknown human weaknesses. These weaknesses were exploited out of jealousy by their enemies to discredit them.
I am strongly reminded of this feature of the Deliverer Script by the conversation on the board lately about the question of King Solomons wisdom.
Certainly all biblical friends of God by faith possessed the deliverers spirit and along with it endured fleshly weakness. Such weaknesses as with the apostle Paul were turned into strength by making them empathetic and sensitive to the plight of all sinners. Solomon and David were treasured as a leader of the people because of this.
John ad Robert Kennedy were also treasured by the common people for the genuine compassion of these leaders for them.
Bill Clinton is just such a leader whose impact on history and the world I believe is in a early stage and growing. The necessity of the non privileged in society which includes in large part blacks forces them to build a great reliance on God to do for them what they cannot do for themselves.
Especially in slavery days black people cultivated out of necessity a deep spirituality and dependence on God. This is not as many will say a crutch but a gift. A gift that has brought rich blessings for blacks through the course of the last 200 years. Those blessings continue to mount up aided by te contributions of such servants of God as Bill Clinton.
This is faith for which they have been rewarded by having deliverers emerge to free them from bondage of all types (social, financial, physical, educational, etc.). Bill Clinton has obviously been selected and prepared by God for his role as deliverer. Bill Clinton and Black people have for a very longtime had a symbiotic relationship supporting one another. Clinton has become very genuinely black peoples white soul brother. The article about his Black Hall of Fame induction makethis point real clear. It makes my heart glad to hear it.
Zechariah
Edited by - zechariah on 21 October 2002 13:52:33
John ad Robert Kennedy were also treasured by the common people for the genuine compassion of these leaders for them.
YES!
Bill Clinton is just such a leader whose impact on history and the world I believe is in a early stage and growingOh Pleazzzz!. Clinton was smart enough to be one of our greatest presidents, unfortunately he was as phoney as a 3 dollar bill. The only 'original' thought he ever had was what he took from an opinion poll... he never press for or against anything unless he knew the numbers were on his side. (And I liked the guy when he originally ran against the other Democrats in '92).
Edited by - Double Edge on 21 October 2002 17:5:35
Of course, smart asses like me are still laughing that "GOD" needs a whoremonger to do his dirty work. Thousands of years after "HE" sends his only begotten "SON" he still has trouble communicating his desires to the masses.
It seems to me "GOD" chooses dumbasses to deliver his message to the masses. If "GOD" wanted to send me a message, why couldn't he use some dude that doesn't have a problem keeping his dick in his pants?
Could it be that GOD himself is sexist and racist?!?!?!?!
All that Ronald Regan had done to bring about the strongest economy the US had ever seen was flushed by the creep from Little Rock.
Reaganomics and supply-side economics worked - for the richest 1%!
Please check your economic history, or read Al Franken's "Rush Limbaugh is a Big Fat idiot".
