DESTROYED !

by Derrick 40 Replies latest jw friends

  • Derrick
    Derrick

    The visiting CO pointed out in his talk that "people who love to practice evil will be DESTROYED [very strong vocal emphasis on this word] !" Many of you insist he is referring to those whose only "sin" is not being a baptized Jehovah's Witness and their children. After my experiences on the Internet from AJWR to H2O to this forum, however, I'm beginning to appreciate that all is not "black" and "white" but many shades of gray, many hues of stunning colors, and a mixture.

    Why not use the words KILLED or EXECUTED to describe the fate of these evil people, I asked the CO afterwards? He pointed to 2 Peter 2:12. This verse of the Bible says that some people willfully follow their corrupt desires and despise authority. They are further described as "bold and arrogant." The CO, knowing I have a computer, said that if I venture "out there" into discussion areas, I might recognize these kind of people on the Internet in their posts. "Bold and arrogant, these men are not afraid to slander celestial beings" wrote the Apostle in 2 Peter 2:11. That is true. I have seen firsthand on this forum and others God and Christ slandered time and again!

    Verses 11 continues, "yet even angels, although they are stronger and more powerful, do not bring slanderous accusations against such beings in the presence of the Lord." Verse 12 continues, "But these men blaspheme in matters they do not understand." Isn't it true? You read posts from people angry at God who are totally ignorant. Verse 12 goes on to describe the type of people who bring slanderous accusations against God. "They are like brute beasts, creatures of instinct, born only to be caught and destroyed, and like beasts they too will perish."

    These blasphemous individuals who might come to your mind immediately, but I shall not name, post a variety of slick and cleverly written claims. One really slick argument is that the Hebrew Scriptures (Old Testament) proves God has acted in a barbaric manner towards people based on certain scriptures that appear damning when superficially read. Start to dig into the true context and history, however, and an entirely different picture emerges. Those who slander God in this method are relying on the laziness of their invisible cyber-audience to not perform this digging, and accept these slick superficial arguments. Somehow "proving" that God is a "monster" satisfies the consciences of those who love to lead immoral lives, and whose own shallow lives are about their own self-interest. This classic example of their slick propaganda campaign attempts not to make people stop believing in God, but rather to incite public hatred for God by painting him as a "monster"!

    Motivations for destroying the faith of people through orchestrated propaganda disguised as "discussions" go far beyond simply feeding personal egos and vendettas against God. The depraved individuals behind these screen personas have attempted to skillfully manipulate large numbers of people who read these posts into hating anything moral and good! Their goal is to get as many people as they can to take the opposite side of moral and good, the side of immoral and evil. Anyone who claims to have not seen these type of postings between dubious people are either filtering them out, living in denial or both.

    I wish that more people who know the TRUTH that God will only destroy those who really deserve it, and not harm a hair on the heads of anyone who is redeemable, will speak out. It is so unfortunate that the very forums intended to help Jehovah's Witnesses become free from the yoke of slavery to men, are used by a few unscrupulous characters using a plethora of screen name personas to encourage them to grasp for false freedoms that will further enslave them. I wonder how many Jehovah's Witnesses who have been influenced by these unscrupulous people have actually bought into such so-called freedoms. For instance, how many Jehovah's Witnesses have taken the bait that "sexual freedom" practiced by these invisible online master manipulators they encourage to others, are dying of AIDS and have discovered they were deceived after it was too late?

    One of the biggest online scams next to "get rich" and "work at home" schemes, is the scam of convincing people "if there is a God, he is a 'monster'" based on a superficial reading of various Hebrew scriptures in the Old Testament. The result is to get them to live self centered lives devoid of morality and hope, lives often smothered in alcohol, drugs and illicit sex, tragic lives often slowly dying of AIDS and other disease. Why? Perhaps the simple answer is that "misery loves company"? Perhaps someone who learned the truth during their years as a Jehovah's Witness, not wanting to expend the effort and energy it takes to be a good moral citizen, considers each broken life caused from their online manipulations as another "feather" in their cap?

    Who knows. I just know what I have seen, feel powerless to stop it alone, and hope posts such as this one will ultimately thwart their efforts to deceive others under their online screen name cloaks.

    Derrick

  • TR
    TR

    You believed the C.O.? You still believe what 'hovahs say regarding the bible?

    TR

  • SixofNine
    SixofNine

    See my dog Rick.

    See my dog Rick return to his vomit.

  • DannyBear
    DannyBear

    Rick,

    You are pushing the edge of delusional. Your mind is so cluttered with jw crap, you can't see your own faulty reasoning.

    First you talk about gaining freedom from oppression, then you applaud it's very perpatrator's.

    Ever give any consideration to the fact that you may have all of the immoral tendencies you so very much despise? Ever think about why you need such severe condemnation of such practices?

    Perhap's your inclinations are such, that without the perverted/machinations of the bible and jw Co's waving the sword of Jah's vengence, you could not stop yourself from practicing the very things you decry??? Huh Rick?

    I think I can say with all honesty, I can put my morality up against your inflated opionion of your own, anyday, and come away the winner.

    Without referencing the bible or any other talmud-like book of directions.

    Danny

  • Undecided
    Undecided

    Hi Derrick,

    The problem with religion is they all claim to have a direct connection with God, but every different faith has it's own view of what God requires of man and has been proven in almost all cases to have lied about what God would do in this age or that age and there is no evidence that God has done anything in this earth but start life and leave us to our own fate. We know nothing of an afterlife and can only use our imagination to hope for one.

    Ken P.

  • Farkel
    Farkel

    Rick,

    Sometimes what you say is good, sometimes, but rarely it is REALLY good, and sometimes what you say is really crappy.

    That was really crappy. I won't bother to demolish it, because I've been unable to teach you a single thing in nearly five years.

    When I gave you your best lessons, you made sure some of those lessons got deleted. Now that you can't do that (despite the fact that you nearly begged to have moderator status on this board), you and I can say nearly everything we want. I say this to you: your argument stinks. It is specious, flawed and without evidence. You would learn a lot if you could only step forward and say "it is MY opinion that.....(fill in the Bible blanks) is true." To call people "blasphemous" because they happen not believe in unprovable fantasies is not only an ad hominem, it shows you haven't learn a damn thing; despite all those who've tried to help you learn a damn thing. Including me.

    Farkel

  • BeautifulGarbage
    BeautifulGarbage

    Post of "hope"?!

  • Satanus
    Satanus

    You paint w a wide brush, derrick. Those who can't condone the violence and debachery of god's people and their god in the ot must be immoral, corrupt, self serving, filthy, scummy etc etc. My efforts at deprogramation here trigger the same old cliches in people like you. The deapths of the depravity of the ot has been often explored here, on this board. But hey, believe what you want about me, or people like me. Even if you read all my posts, you likely wouldn't know me. One of my nieghbors told me a few days ago that i have no bad habits. Go figure, eh.

    Tell us derrick, what desires of your own do you suppress, leading to parts of yourself that you reject. Is there integrity in rejecting those parts? What does integrity mean?

    SS

  • A Paduan
    A Paduan

    I've got a couple of minutes so -

    • people who love to practice evil will be DESTROYED (it's a spiritual book, see the wts)
    • Why not use the words KILLED or EXECUTED (because it's spiritual Derrick)
    • slanderous accusations (who is actually telling lies and making such accusations before God - the wts)
    • these men blaspheme in matters they do not understand (that's right)
    • Somehow "proving" that God is a "monster" (well, after the "learning" that the wts gives out - see scriptures on when the Lord hears "widows crying" <give you a clue - those whose 'word' has been killed off and are crying out - sinning> )
    • Their goal is to get as many people as they can to take the opposite side of moral and good (see above)
    • One of the biggest online scams next to "get rich" and "work at home" schemes, is the scam of convincing people "if there is a God, he is a 'monster'" based on a superficial reading of various Hebrew scriptures in the Old Testament. (so close the wt site)
    • dying of AIDS and have discovered they were deceived after it was too late (it's about the flesh for jws, always comes back to the fate of their body - do you really think that it's some kind of wrath, this broken life business that you see - they're blessed - a punishment has been given for them so they may well see the little they have done wrong, and change - whereas the punishment for the well heeled religious hypocrite isn't so forthcoming - that's wrath.

    paduan

  • Jesus Christ
    Jesus Christ

    So, just out of curiosity, when I talk about how dad (commonly known to most of you as god or Jehovah but more commonly known up here as Spanky) like watching pornos and getting drunk, not to mention my numerous rants against the JW's or their warped version of dad and I, is that slanderous? If so, will I destroy myself? How would that work out because it was just a huge mess last time I died.

    Just curious.

    Edited by - Jesus Christ on 30 October 2002 0:19:3

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