WHAT IS DEJA VU?? (page 2)

Englishman

It's just a mental short circuit where the memory runs faster than the conscious mind.

I'm sure that I mentioned this a minute ago.

Englishman.

Matty

What is Deja vu? It's when they say "It doesn't mean that I don't like you Matthew, it's just the fact that the spark just isn't there between us, at least not from my side anyway"

I will never forget. I was maybe about 10 or 11 and I was still "in the troof". I had a dream that we were at this sister's house and I watched from a small distance away, my mother and this sister having a conversation. I remembered it word for word. I don't remember the conversation now. I do remember watching in awe as I was whispering every word they were saying AS they were saying it. We didn't go over to their house often so I know this hadn't happened before. After it was over, the part that I could recite, I pulled my mother to the side confused and kinda scared since I didn't know or understand why I knew this.

I told her about the dream I had, which had been about a yr before it actually happened right it frount of my eyes. I remember telling my mom the story as I was shaking from excitement and fear.

My mom dismissed it completely, and told me I was making it up or overreacting. I will never forget that day!!!!! I KNOW I saw what I saw and their was no explanation for it.

I have had this happen to me alot since then, with different things. Like going to a resturant or a person's house ( I had never been before) and knowing where things are before I actually saw them. For example, like where the bathroom is, or a certain picture hanging on a particular wall. I have been able to watch myself have a conversation with someone and then catch myself in that same coversation and I know the answer or responce to something I have said before I even say it.

It is very strange to me, but I still have no explanation for it. I find it really neat when it does happen and I no longer am afraid, but still wonder why this happens.

Jes

PS----Don't think I am weird!!

lurk

i dont know much about the brain and how it works but this is generally what i think happens

i think of deja vu like this

all your experiences in your life stored in your brain as bits data.

but not in one whole data chunk .

but in millions of bits of data fragments ..

the smell memorys stored in the smell files ...the colour memory data stored in the colour file .(ok not as simple as that much more comlex but you gte the idea)

when you have a memory its because you have triggered one of these bits of data and it in turn triggered all the other related files.you smelt a flower..it triggers a memory data file in the smell directory .you remember it smells like your mothers purfume ...the smell file triggers other related files and you remember your mothers face the cardigan she was wearing the colour of the cardigan.how it when you snuggled up to her and got the perfume memory etc etc etc etc...

ok now the dejavou thing

imagine your out side on a cold night holding open a car door telling a friend that "ill see meet you where the car his broken down" you stop and say hey hang on we've doen this before..or hey dejavu.

you can find no way that it would be possible for this event to have happened before (for whatever reasons )but yet you know youve experienced it you get a shudder because you there is no memory but the conviction that this event its self happened before.

i think you trigger a piece of memory data.it could have been the hand on the cold car door for example ..this data found lots of other files but not enough to present you with your memory ..but its done so much work and has to complete its job..so the brain substitutes the missing files with the newly aquired data (you out side in dark holding car door and talking)

you had available many files which corresponded to the event taking place and the brain believed there was a memory available but finding it was unable to complete the task of presenting a memory through failing to find enought data it compensated with the new data it had just recieved .

and so the brain presents it as a memory....of course because this fake memorys has just this minute happened yo have a double event feeling.this happend before..yes it did lol 2 mins ago.

if you think your brain wouldnt lie to you .go and visit ppl who insist that their arms belong to their husband.there not mad...drs have been able to prove in many circumstances that your brain can be a real fibber at times.

with dejavu enough memory must be available to fool the brain in to completeing the task.

i found de javu tends to happen with events that have repetitive elements in them eg cars night cold metal , tv ,standing up ,certain words,certain types of food,recurrent things in life

it could be that our lives are often repetitive ...resulting in repetive data and repetitive data strings

which trips up our brain and memory function at times.

Edited by - lurk on 4 November 2002 20:18:36

ballistic

This is how it was explained to me and it made sense.

Your brain receives input from your perceptions and senses and stores detail into the memory where it can be accessed later. This is a bit like your computer receiving input from the outside world through a camera or microphone and storing the information to memory or a hard disk.

Sometimes, particularly when the brain is tired or stressed, but maybe for no reason at all, the brain performs an autonomous function which involves routing the data via the memory first, then into the analytical brain for interpretation and other cognitive processes or conscious thought.

As this data is moved in from the memory into the brain (instead of directly from the senses) it is accompined by the "feeling" of remembering. Remembering has it's own distinct feeling and this accompanies all use of the memory and this is how you "know" the difference between remembering something and experiencing it; something which is obviously essential for life.

In other words, it is similar to what someone said, "a short circuit". But we must remember that the circuits which make up our thought patterns are constantly re-wired as we learn and adapt and it is a fact that our brains are not fully hard-wired devices.

Just as a side point, I often felt de ja vu as a young pioneer in the truth working nights. I think anyone who is tired out mentally can experience anomalies such as this plus others. I think, however, the reason such experiences are short-lived is because the brain is able to interpret something is "wrong" fairly quickly and re-configure itself again to resolve, a bit like a self-diagnostic.

IronGland

It's a glitch in the Matrix. Something, for some reason, had to be reset in the programming of what you perceive to be reality.

blondie

Deja vu: Having the feeling you have been through this crap before.

I get it at every meeting I go to.

Edited by - Blondie on 4 November 2002 20:30:2

glitter

One of my teachers said he thought that since the big bang the universe is expanding, then one day it'll all snap back into a tiny ball of matter, then the big bang will set off again - so everyone's doomed to repeat their entire lives over and over and it feels like it's already happened because it has.

He was quite strange (but really cool) though that teacher - used to ride a unicycle around his lab and stuff.

outcast

ROFL@ blondie

You are so right!

WHAT IS DEJA VU??