What New Light Are You Talking About? (page 3)

Gopher

Thanks for the post Surreptitious.

Gods servants in modern times have tried to derive from what Jesus said about generation some clear time element calculated from 1914. For instance, one line of reasoning has been that a generation can be 70 or 80 years, made up of people old enough to grasp the significance of the first world war and other developments; thus we can calculate more or less how near the end is.
However well-meaning such thinking was, did it comply with the advice Jesus went on to give? Jesus said: Concerning that day and hour nobody knows, neither the angels of the heavens nor the Son, but only the Father. . . . Keep on the watch, therefore, because you do not know on what day your Lord is coming.Matthew 24:36-42.

Well, DUH! Who published that "one line of reasoning" as though God had whispered it into their own ears? Hello, Governing Body !!

Or else Jehovah cannot make up his mind about what to tell his servants! (yeah, right)

Surreptitious

Thank you for the welcome! I apologize for the complete lack of any profile info, but I'm very much "undercover" (hehe) and want to take no chances!

I am new to posting here. But I was trying to read on the New Light. My mother had suggested something of this. And then I asked her about it the other day. She now says that they believe that there may be some left at the end. I am so utterly confused by it all. It's one of the main things that made me question. I have been away 7 years but only questioning for a few months. I trying to read through all the articles is just too much. Memories ya know.

Anyway this is an interesting topic thanks for the info.

joeshmoe

I think what is most interesting is the way the generation went from being the 'good guys' to the 'bad guys'.

By that I mean, the witnesses used to say the generation was those who had lived to see and understand the events of 1914, and while that could be anyone, most witnesses would think in terms of how 'up there' in years the anointed ones were getting -- essentially equating the generation with the anointed.

But now, lo and behold, that generation is nothing more than the nasty masses of mankind out to reject Jesus and his people. Oops.

Back then, I remember sitting in the back of the hall wondering how we explain to God we mixed up his "chosen ones" with the scum of the earth! (no mix up it turns out)

-Josh

Robdar

hlibby76

Welcome to the board. We hope you stick around for a while.

Robyn

joeshmoe

Howdy hlibby76 and Surreptitious. I don't post here much myself, but I do find some awfully interesting stuff to read and think about! Hope you do too.

-Josh

Robdar

But now, lo and behold, that generation is nothing more than the nasty masses of mankind out to reject Jesus and his people. Oops

Isn't the double speak of the WTS truly amazing? I cannot believe their hubris.

Robyn

Robdar

"It must be acknowledged that we have not always taken Jesus words in that sense."

Is this the WTS way of saying that they were incorrect without actually coming out and saying that they were incorrect?

Wait a minute, what is this I see?

With similar sincere intentions, Gods servants in modern times have tried to derive from what Jesus said about generation some clear time element calculated from 1914

Oh, it is their excuse for being incorrect.

Robyn

Edited to try to correct format.

Edited by - robdar on 15 November 2002 3:11:12

Jesus Christ

I actually remember that WT from back when I was in high school. Sure enough, that was right about the time that I stopped being a good little JW. My thoughts were that since the end wasn't anywhere near from what I could tell I could be a normal kid (actually, worse than normal in my case) and have fun and then when I was a boring adult anyway repent and start being good. Hey, I apparently had plenty of time because the way I took it (at least back then) was that the JW's were trying to give themselves plenty of room and that they were ever so subtly trying to say that the end wouldn't come until after all the 1914'ers had died so I was going to enjoy life while I could because there was no rush to start being good.

It was because of that article that I started really being the bad little JW (but otherwise a normal kid) because I thought I could get away with it. It was kind of a first step of many towards my leaving. I saw that people who weren't JW's could actually be good people. I learned that love is bigger than any religion and that there's nothing wrong with loving people outside of it. From there I saw how cruel, heartless, and hypocritical JW's could be and then compared that to the kind and loving wordly people I knew. Then it was pretty much only a matter of time until I could move out of my parents' place and stop going all together.

Of course, this is just the guy who types stuff out for Jesus. Jesus was never a JW and knew it was a load of crap all along.

BeelzeDub

IronGland: You said the WTS said something as follows:

"some of the brothers have tried to tie the end of this system with the length of certain generations and we would bring a heart of wisdom into the matter by not speculating, blah blah blah"

I did not see this in any of the articles posted in this thread so far. I did see where they said in the QFR "some Christains...." but it looked like they were refering to themeselves as they compared it to Jesus own deciples wanting to know when, so it looked to me more like justification for them instead of pointing blame at others.

If there is a quote that specificly mades reference to "brothers" not "speculating" I would be interested in seeing that.

-B.D.

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