GB disassociates itself!! (page 10)

avishai

The WTS didn't become "involved" with the UN, not in any shape, form, or fashion. The WTS merely became a "member," remember?

Here is something I got from quotes.jehovaswitnesses.com. Its part of a relolutiom p;edged by all the assemblies in 1963.

WE JEHOVAH'S witnesses, met together in [City, State, Country], in one of the "Everlasting Good News" assemblies being held in a continuous chain around the whole world this year of 1963, do this day declare and resolve as follows:

5 THAT, in order to prevent the destruction of the nations by their own means in war, the nations further refused the surrender of their sovereignty to God's Messianic kingdom by setting up a society of nations, which, since 1945, has taken the form and the name of the United Nations, with international headquarters at New York city. This international organization stands for world sovereignty by political men. For years men without faith in God's kingdom have endeavored to get all people to worship this international image of human political sovereignty as the best hope for earthly peace and security, in fact, the last hope for humanity. To date 111 nations have given worship to this political image by becoming members of it. However, we, as witnesses of the Sovereign God Jehovah, will continue refusing to engage in such idolatrous worship, for we see, under angelic enlightenment, that God has smitten such idolaters with a malignant ulcer, symbolically speaking, that will spell death to them as spiritually diseased image worshipers who worship a man-made political creation rather than the Creator of heaven and earth;

How do you explain this?

avishai

And please, if you can explain it, don't give me that new light bullcrap. It won't fly.

Yadirf

avishai,

You quoted me as having said:

The WTS didn't become "involved" with the UN, not in any shape, form, or fashion. The WTS merely became a "member," remember?

After which you cite these words:

To date 111 nations have given worship to this political image by becoming members of it. However, we, as witnesses of the Sovereign God Jehovah, will continue refusing to engage in such idolatrous worship,....
How do you explain this?

There is a world of difference in the sort of "member" that the WTS was, as an NGO, as compared to the member nations that make up the United Nations. Needless to say, the very existence of the United Nations depends upon the world's nations becoming members, and those nations become involved in international affairs as well as give their support financially. The WTS on the other hand, as a NGO member, didn't do anything ... other than sign on the dotted line.

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KAYTEE

Having read all of the comments backwards and forwards from ones that I would definately NOT call apostates, but people of principles, an old saying comes to mind

Never argue with a fool, he will drag you down to his level, then beat you with experience.

KT

UnDisfellowshipped

Kaytee, I love that saying!

And, Yadirf is just as much of an Apostate as any of us, in the eyes of the Watchtower, because he said he has spoken out about their 1914 Doctrine, which is one of their main teachings, and anyone who speaks out against it will be Disfellowshipped.

Also, Yadirf admitted that the Watchtower had lied about the "Library Card", so that would also be a Disfellowshipping Offense.

I just can't figure out why an "Apostate" like Yadirf would try to defend the Watchtower on some points, even though he knows they are teaching lies.

UnDisfellowshipped

Yadirf said:

The WTS on the other hand, as a NGO member, didn't do anything ... other than sign on the dotted line

How in the world do you know that, Yadirf? Do you have proof?

Edited by - UnDisfellowshipped on 28 November 2002 2:37:14

jack2

I'm done with this thread....tired of having my words misquoted and my intent mis-understood by Yadirf.

UnDisfellowshipped

I agree Jack2.

Yadirf is one of the "Masters of Theocratic Warfare", along with "You Know", "SwordOfJah", etc.

Yadirf

And, Yadirf is just as much of an Apostate as any of us, in the eyes of the Watchtower, because he said he has spoken out about their 1914 Doctrine, which is one of their main teachings, and anyone who speaks out against it will be Disfellowshipped.
Also, Yadirf admitted that the Watchtower had lied about the "Library Card", so that would also be a Disfellowshipping Offense.
I just can't figure out why an "Apostate" like Yadirf would try to defend the Watchtower on some points, even though he knows they are teaching lies.

You have quite an imagination, UnDisfellowshipped. Plus, your mind is closed so tight that you see only what you want to see. For your information the WTS doesn't disfellowship those who stand up for it, dummy, it's opposers who get the boot.

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Yadirf

Yadirf said:
The WTS on the other hand, as a NGO member, didn't do anything ... other than sign on the dotted line
How in the world do you know that, Yadirf? Do you have proof?--UnDisfellowshipped

Will this suffice?

.

Edited by - Yadirf on 28 November 2002 11:24:14

GB disassociates itself!!

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