Hygiene implications of baptism

by hippikon 15 Replies latest jw friends

  • Scully
    Scully

    bay64me:

    Before bapism, there are questions that the elders ask to do with hygene.

    • Do you have any contagious diseases?
    • Do you have any open wounds?
    • Are you incontinent?

    Thats news to me!! Those questions never got asked when I got dunked in 80, and when you registered for your baptism, you didnt have to fill out any paperwork or sign anything. Even then I thought that was kind of weird. Like, dont they want to know who their members are?? For all anyone knows, I never got baptized at all!!

    Ive wondered what kind of health risk existed with those collapsible pools they use at the DCs, with all that non-chlorinated water. What an excellent vector for transmitting bacteria and viruses. Do they still do all the guys first?? What if one of the guys had a bit of wood and let some swimmers loose in the pool before the sisters went in?? What if one of the sisters got pregnant at her baptism because of it?? Should it be Ladies First??

    But then again. What if one of the ladies was having her monthlies at the baptism?? EWWWW would YOU want to go in a non-chlorinated swimming pool if you knew you could be sharing THAT??

    Maybe the Catholics had it right after all sprinkle some holy water on their head and be done with it!!

    Love, Scully

  • PurpleV
    PurpleV

    What if someone PEED in the pool?

    Ewww.........

  • blondie
    blondie
    Instead of using a pool, they should just line up all the baptismal candidates and just hose em all down

    Mary, I can think of a lot of people who should be hosed down, and I'm not thinking of baptismal candidates.

    Blondie

  • NeonMadman
    NeonMadman

    when you registered for your baptism, you didnt have to fill out any paperwork or sign anything. Even then I thought that was kind of weird. Like, dont they want to know who their members are?? For all anyone knows, I never got baptized at all!!

    Hmmm... now there's a loophole for some, at least, who might be looking for a way out of the borg. If you were baptized at a large assembly, and no one who knew you personally actually saw you get baptized - couldn't you go to the elders and claim that you aren't a JW because you never actually went through with the baptism? In that case, you would never have become a JW, so they couldn't disfellowship you for lying or anything else. Interesting possibility...

    Not that I'm advocating lying, mind you...(but are they entitled to know the truth?)

  • ozziepost
    ozziepost

    Back around 1995, the elders were given a secret insert and instructed to include the following questions which were to be in addition to those found in the "Organised" book on pages 191 and 217:

    When covering question 4 on page 191 under the subheading "Sanctity of Life", be sure to include the following questions:

    a) What responsibility rests upon a person who is infected with a communicable disease that is potentially fatal?

    Keeping an eye, not in personal interest upon just your own matters but also in personal interest upon those of the others. - Phil. 2:4

    All things, therefore, that you want men to do to you, you also must likewise do to them. - Matt. 7:12

    b) To avoid transmitting a potentially fatal disease to other,

    1. why would it be better for an infected person not to initiate public displays of affection such as hugging and kissing?

    2. why would it be best to attend the Congregation Book Study at the Kingdom Hall, if at all possible?

    3. why should infected ones not react negatively when some choose not to invite them into their homes?

    4. why would it be wise to choose voluntarily to have a blood test before beginning a courtship?


    When covering Question 3 on page 217, be sure to ask the following question:

    a) If one has a communicable disease, why is letting the presiding overseer know about it before that one gets baptised the loving thing to do?

    If the candidate makes known, or if it otherwise becomes known, that he has a communicable disease which will require precautions, he can be informed that he may consider the following loving options:

    1. He may attend the district convention, circuit assembly, or special assembly day, listen to the baptismal discourse given there, and then be taken to a running body of water and be baptised.

    2. He may attend the district convention or circuit assembly or special assembly day, listen to the baptismal discourse, and then that evening it may be preferred that he be baptised in his hotel or motel room or a private home where there is a large tub that can be used for this purpose.

    3. If he is sensitive to others becoming aware of the fact that he has such a disease and does not want it to become known to others, he may attend a district convention or circuit assembly or special assembly day to which his congregation is not assigned, listen to the baptismal discourse, and then be baptised in a running body of water.

    4. He may request that the elders arrange to have a private baptism at the local congregation.

    5. The elders should be sure to inform the brother(s) performing the baptism of the health issue. This will allow the brother(s) to make a personal decision as to whether he feels there would be arisk to himself that he would be unwilling to take.

    Cheers, Ozzie
  • hillbilly
    hillbilly

    I don't swim in your toilet-don't pee in my pool.

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