war in Irak

by happy man 33 Replies latest jw friends

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  Rogue_Protecter

  Well as you see it may not be the way it is..when it comes to welfare there are alot of people on it that would include immigrants from these other countrys.This system is greatly abused by everyone.And we should be taken care of ourselves what makes u think that the goverment should be taken care of everyone? There are poor in every country thats a fact there always will be.There are jobs out there for everyone just sometimes people dont wanna swallow there pride to do them..

  Lets see some of them great swedish articles about all these civilians were killing everynight..Propaganda is part of War..And we will hear all kinds of it..every time we dropped a bomb during Desert Storm it was supposedly according to Iraq on civilian sites..We know that as what it is propaganda..Always thought it funny how the signs were in english at these sights..Ya think they added them afterwards so we could read it? hmmmmmmm

  No typical Texan....he is Typical american....We are at War on Terrorism our country was attacked and any one harboring terrorist or aiding them are our enemy..Iraq is a threat to not only us but other countrys..We are just the biggest dog on the block so we bark the loudest and bite the hardest..

  Your article ya posted may have some truthes to it..and then again maybe its just War Propaganda..Bill Clinton doesnt hold to much weight with me he was a coward anyway..would have been kinda double standard for him to send our country to war when he fled from it when younger ...

  IMHO, RP
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  Yerusalyim

  Logical,

  There are TONS of problems with your "Logic". With what would Iraq attack us if they don't have weapons of mass destruction? Here's how it is sister...Saddam is a big fat liar, PERIOD! He has been working on weapons of mass destruction. HE is starving his own people in the so called oil for food program, draining of BILLIONS from this program to build palaces and working on weapons programs. IRAQ has trained terrorists. Now then, we can either sit back and let the haters like Saddam produce Biological, Chemical, and Nuclear weapons with no check on them so that when, in a few years, they decide they're powerful enough again they take not only Kuwait, but also Saudi Arabia, Iran, Oman, Qatar, Yemen, Jordain, and destroy Israel, or we can put a stop to in now by taking out a guy who has repeatedly shown he has no concern for world opinion, no intention of abiding my UN Resolutions, and no respect for human life. I suppose the recently released videos of Kurds being tortured in killed in Northern Iraq mean NOTHING to you.

  The Civilized world is now at War with Radical Islam, there's no way around it. The recent events in Nigeria are proof positive of this, 9-11 is proof positive of this, the murder, rape, and enslavement of Sudanese Christians and Animists prove this. Radical Islam will use Hussein, and he will use Radical Islam. The only thing we can do to avert this war is convert to the Most Radical form of Islam, or fight evil. Radical Islam is indeed evil.

  Still to this day none of you "peace niks" have offered solutions for the real and true problems we face in the world today. Either offer VIABLE solutions or SHUT THE HECK UP!

  Happy man, your pretention at no speaking English well is shallow. Funny, most of the Europeans I speak with are NOT in favor of letting Saddam build his weapons of mass destruction, they just don't want to be involved. I see this as WEAK and Spineless. This was the whole reason the US had to become involved in Bosnia and Kosovo, Europe won't take care of business.
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  Pathofthorns

  I think talk of war while UN resolutions are in place which offer Saddam the chance to comply and avert military action is irresponsible. Let the UN inspectors do their job and the US should stop trying to provoke Iraq with continued irresponsible comments.

  The US agreed to the resolution and must act in good faith instead of trash-talking Iraq. The inspectors are doing their job and Iraq seems to be letting them. If there are weapons of mass destruction, then the US should not worry that they will be found. IMO, I think the US is more worried about Iraqi compliance than non-compliance because without a war, the US is in deep trouble.

  Path
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  Yerusalyim

  Path,

  you're wrong and here's why. Resolutions have been in place since Saddam invaded Kuwait that would have given him a peaceful way out. He choose to do otherwise. The only thing Saddam understands is FORCE. There is no negotiating with this maniac, as he has proven over the last 12 years.

  The inspectors aren't doing their job, they;re pussy footing around, Blix knows the only way to get information will be to take weapons scientists and their families out of the country to question them, yet he refuses to do this.
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  back2dafront

  Rogue-Protector,

  Bush - TYPICAL AMERICAN?!?!?!

  Have you travelled outside of Texas???
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  TR

  "Bigfoot is a left over race of nephilim"

  TR
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  GatoCat

  Aiee, caramba! This bodes well for no one.

  Bush & Blair should be the ones to be assassinated...However murder is wrong

  Logical: "Eh, b'dee b'dee b'dee" (flipping his lips with his finger)
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  Rogue_Protecter

  back2dafront..Never been to Texas...Whats not typical....ohhh u must be speaking about the way he talks..I am from the south most all of us talk like that w/o the texas drawl of course..His view however that were not putting up with Saddam or terrorism...well thats pretty much the way everyone I have spoke to feels about it...

  I mean wake up...as yeru said there has been a way out for along time they have been breaking the rules for a while now..the scientist tell the inspecters the truth lol...then the 100% vote to reelect Saddam must be real then..Iraq viaolated the resolution the first day by firing on coalition planes...
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  Shakita

  "Max Van der Stoel, the former United Nations special rapportuer for human rights in Iraq, told the United Nations that the brutality of the Iraqi regime was "of an exceptionally grave character-so grave that it has few parallels in the years that have passed since the Second World War. Indeed, it is to comparisons with the obscenity of the Holocaust and Stalin's mass murders that observers are inevitably drawn when confronted with the horrors of Saddam's Iraq. Saddamist Iraq is a state that employs arbitrary execution, imprisonment, and torture on a comprehensive and routine basis. A full catalogue of the regime's methods of torture is not available. Suffice to say that based on voluminous accounts of witnesses and victims, the list is very, very long. In some ways, to try to name all of its practices would detract from the regime's monstrosity. A few examples, however, are useful.

  This is a regime that will gouge out the eyes of children to force confessions from their parents and grandparents. This is a regime that will crush all of the bones in the feet of a two-year-old girl to force her mother to divulge her father's whereabouts. This is a regime that will hld a nursing baby at arm's length from its mother and allow the child to starve to death to force the mother to confess. This is a regime that will burn a person's limbs off to force him to confess or comply. This is a regime that will slowly lower its victims into huge vats of acid, either to break their will or simply as a means of execution. This is a regime that applies electric shocks to the bodies of its victims, particularly their genitals, with great creativity. This is a regime that in 2000 decreed that the crime of criticizing the regime(which can be as harmless as suggesting that Saddam's clothing does not match)would be punished by cutting out the offender's tongue. This is a regime that practices systematic rape against its female victims. This is a regime that will drag in a man's wife, daughter, or other female relative and repeatedly rape her in front of him. This is a regime that will force a white-hot metal rod into a person's anus or other orifices. This is a regime that employs thalium poisoning, widely considered one of the most excruciating ways to die. This is a regime that will behead a young mother in the street in front of her house and children because the husband was suspected of opposing the regime. This is a regime that used chemical warfare on its own Kurdish citizens-not just on the fifteen thousand killed and maimed at Halabja but on scores of other villages all across Kurdistan. This is a regime that tested chemical and biological warfare agents on Iranian prisoners of war, using the POWs in controlled experiments to determine the best ways to disperse the agents to inflict the greatest damage."--The Threatening Storm, The Case for Invading Iraq, Kenneth M. Pollack, pg 123-124.

  Kenneth Pollack's is one of the world's leading experts on Iraq. He spent 15 years as an analyst on Iraq for the CIA and the National Security Council. He has studied Saddam as closely as anyone else in the US.

  Path is right. We must wait out the inspections taking place now in Iraq. But, the bottom line is, Saddam's regime must go. "War is an ugly thing, but it is not the ugliest of things." "In our case, the ugliest of things would be to hide our heads in the sand while Saddam Hussein acquires the capability to kill millions of people and hold the economy of the world in the palm of his cruel hand."

  Mrs. Shakita
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  Iwasyoungonce

  Happyman

  who never have done anything against US sitisens.

  US NOW is terror bombing Irak evry night and several innocent peopel are killd, as we can read in Sweed newspappers.
  

  Yesterday i hear from a friend who have a contact widh a former US submarine officer, he said to her that Bush is a typical Texas wild west cowboy

  Well, Happyman according to your logic then the USA should just pull out of the UN because unless it concerns our boarders and citizens we should stay out of it. That is dumb logic who is going to defend those countries who cannot defend themselves, Swedes? HA! Truth is most of the world just does not care until it is too late. Proven fact. (Or do I need a WT history lesson)
  
  Terror bombing civilians EVERY night yep that is how we get world support along with the brilliant strategy of killing civilians while leaving all military targets in tact. That way we can do it again. And at huge costs of bombs to destroy clay houses and tents in the other holes of the world we will be making money in no time. Yep leave it to the Swedes to uncover this Western conspiracy. Our true plot is to turn all the sand in the deserts of the Middle East to glass. SHHHHH!

  And I know that you say it is the friend of a friend that knows someone who I assume is out to sea so can't be contacted as YOU may not say this per se but "Bush is a typical Texas wild west cowboy." What do you have against Texans? Are you an anti-Texite? And what about Cowboys? Are you an anti-Cowinarian? I am really concerned about this. I like and admire the brave people of Texas and I am well aware of the deep seeded hatred that the Swedish people have always held towards these people. I am aware of the full scale propaganda program that the Swedish media has been campaigning for years to infiltrate the sovereignty of the Lone Star State. The oppression of these people will not go unnoticed by the world!