war in Irak

by happy man 33 Replies latest jw friends

  • Iwasyoungonce
    Iwasyoungonce

    Mrs. Shakita,

    Thank you for the information. I believe it.

    My frustration is there is (was) people here that basicly would demand personal eye account of every person that was killed and proof that it was Sadamed's regime that in fact did these things.

    (Now stop and dubthingk)

    There is always the possibility that maybe they hooked their own gentials up and electrocuted themselves. If we were not there how could we be sure? Have I been to Iraq (answer self) No I have not. Am I from Iraq. (ANswer SelF) No I am not. Well then how do I know that it is true? I can't, but in America I can be a nerotic critic my government and this pleases the edlers so I am get a good wife.

    Truth talk....THEY WILL LOVE US WHEN WE WIN! Until then they will cry and moan because that is what they do. I simply say thank you to the brave men and women that protect me from those who would kill me if they could. And that is not just Americans; That includes Great Britian who is a true friend and has been for some time. And I have no doubt that there will be others again when the time comes. Jehovah Witness belief and attitude is not what I look to for help or protection. Nor liberal minded attitude that feels what goes on OVER THERE is not our concern. It is. The people of the Middle East deserve better than they have had at the hands of their current leaders.

    "We have a chance to write the story of our times. a story of courage defeating cruelty and lite overcomming darkness. This calling is worthy of any life." President George W. Bush addressing the Untied Nations on November 10, 2001.

  • back2dafront
    back2dafront

    Holy cow.

    That article reminds me of the Old Testament. The world has a history of doing sick, twisted and demented things.

    My whole concern with this thing is who's to say we're going to be in a better position after getting rid of Sadaam?

    Yeah Iraq has had chemical and biological weapons in the past and may still have them, but is that a real threat to the USA?

    Would he launch those suckers from over there to attack us?

    If not, then he's more of a threat to the local region, so why not let them decide what to do about him?

    Are there any connections to him and terrorism?

    Any potential threat of Iraq terrorists on US interests?

    Would the problems that will arise after another war w/ Iraq be worth the money spent and the detriment to our security and economy?

    I'll be the first to admit I don't know what the answer is to this situation. I'm really just trying to weigh all the pros and cons. Evidently Bush & Co. have done this already and are firmly convinced this is the best way, I'm just trying to understand the logic behind it.

    BTW, I didn't mean to insult Texas or people from Texas in any way, shape or form. (In fact, Texas has the some of the hottest women in this country!!!) I was merely saying that Texas doesn't represent the general population of the country, but i was thinking in a character-sense kind of way, not political. Just to clear that up....

  • happy man
    happy man

    Well i think this was a sensetive subjekt.

    nowan answer on my most important wuie, why can govermet spennd millions of dollars to military systems and war, but not have a fare system fore sick and pore peopel, in sweden we have taxes arond 30 %, and 50 % if you doing a lot of money, but we have free hospital treatment almost free doctors, sure we have some problems in the system, but evryone in the country is promised treatment if they are ill, no madher how much you have in your wallet.

    And so this texas thing, here in sweden we only now Texas truh TV stars like Sue Ellen, JR, from Dallas, nice fellows i think, so no complain ther, hmm.

    I realy think they have a very happy life in there widh all oil and other things, and so lot of nice womans, you must realy live in a paradise, arent you??

    I wish all of you happynes fore ever in your paradise.

    By from HM

  • freedom96
    freedom96

    For anyone to say that Bush is worse than Saddam.... it blows my mind. Unbelievable.

    Let us not forget the horrible actions agains his own people that Saddam has done. And people think that even if he had the ability, that he would not send a nuke over to the US?

    Wake up!!

  • back2dafront
    back2dafront

    I hope you're not insinuating that I'm one of those people - I just raised the question. It seems like the USA would have the defenses to not be concerned about something like that...??

  • avishai
    avishai

    Happy man, If it were'nt for the U.S, you'd be singing "Deutscheland, Deutschalnd uber alles" right now, plus I really think you should be worrying about your own country these days.

  • Yerusalyim
    Yerusalyim

    Happy Man,

    Actually the US spends BILLIONS on defense, not Millions, but we also spend BILLIONS on health Care. I can gaurantee that no american wants to pay 30 to 50% in taxes. Your issue about Taxes and health care, however, do NOT address the issue of Hussein and Iraq at all.

    BACK2,

    Yes, Iraq IS a threat to the US and our interests. Until we have another means of fueling our cars and factories we need the oil from the middle east. THis is a legetimate reason to go to war.

    There are connections between Iraq and Terrorists. Chech Intelligence still sticks to the story that ATTA met with Iraqi Intelligence in Prauge, plus the fact that Iraq had a site that was designed to train people how to take over commercial jets without guns.

    Saddam has gassed his own people, and he gassed US troops in Gulf War 1, there are underground threats to give WMD to terrorists by him. Our Economy and security will IMPROVE with war. Sure, the Economy will take a hit, but in the end war is good for the economy. What would another 9-11 do to the Economy? Or an Arab oil embargo when Hussein controls all the mid east oil reserves?

    The Logic behind it is this, as bad as war is with Iraq, the prospect of leaving Hussein in power is far worse.

  • Pathofthorns
    Pathofthorns
    Until we have another means of fueling our cars and factories we need the oil from the middle east. THis is a legetimate reason to go to war.

    I wonder why Bush hasn't come right out and said this? I wonder if the world community thinks this is a legitimate reason to go to war? I do believe you that this is a primary reason though, but to kill for oil?

    Saddam has gassed his own people, and he gassed US troops in Gulf War 1, there are underground threats to give WMD to terrorists by him.

    Why didn't the US finish him off on these grounds while they had a war in progress 10 years ago? Once a war is over, you can't bring up things that happened before that war to justify another war.

    There are connections between Iraq and Terrorists. Chech Intelligence still sticks to the story that ATTA met with Iraqi Intelligence in Prauge, plus the fact that Iraq had a site that was designed to train people how to take over commercial jets without guns.

    There has been no proven connection between Iraq and 9/11. I wonder if the US has ever trained or given money to terrorists to accomplish their agendas for them?

    Sure, the Economy will take a hit, but in the end war is good for the economy. What would another 9-11 do to the Economy?

    A war on Iraq does nothing to prevent another 9/11, but in all probability will incite more violence against the US as it will perceived as killing innocent people just to help it's economy. Getting a foothold on middle-east oil is critical to America's long term interests and a war is desperately needed for both political and economic reasons. This kind of "logic" absolutely sucks to the world outside of America. We just don't buy it.

    Path

  • breeze
    breeze

    Happy man SAYS:

    but not have a fare system fore sick and pore peopel, in sweden we have taxes arond 30 %, and 50 % if you doing a lot of money, but we have free hospital treatment almost free doctors

    YOU SHOULDN'T TAKE A STRONG STAND AND MAKE STATEMENTS WHEN YOU DON'T KNOW AND DON'T UNDERSTAND?

    Like Yeru says the US does spend a lot of money on defense, but it also spend billions in aid to many countries and also has a welfare program second to none in the world. The system is set to take care of anyone who needs not only food, but monetary assistance and medical help?

    The only ones that seem to fall through the cracks are the mentally unstable that choose to live in the streets? If you are making these statements due to pictures of homeless people in the US, there are many homeless shelters and places for these people but many of them choose to live out side of shelters because of some requirements like soboriety to stay?

    The American system does it without 50% taxes also?

    Most of the people that c riticize the US forget about the billions of dollars given to many countries all over the world. Much of this aid is mishandled by the political systems in these countries and doesn't get to the needy.

    Our system is not perfect but it is one of the best in the world today?

    I get the feeling that much of the talk about Iraq is smoke screen for all of the things that are going on throughout the world with fighting terror? If the politicians in our country talk about what is going on the news media here would have it on the news 24 - 7.

    Edited by - breeze on 8 December 2002 18:46:54

  • back2dafront
    back2dafront

    You seen the movie John Q?

    Health care in USA is twisted. More and more hospitals are becoming private corporations now. No telling what's in store for us.

    Obviously it can work both ways (the USA way or European way) - as to who's system is better - I think that is highly debatable.

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