The Two Towers (page 4)

safe4kids

Shera,

GAH! I see stubble *swoons* Now, if only Legolas would grow a bit of stubble...sigh, or do elves not have facial hair?? I can't remember.

Expat,

Leper, outcast, unclean! I know what you mean about the detail, frustrating, intit? Little secret...I sometimes skip over the details but don't tell anyone! The first time I read the books, they depressed the hell out of me..all that despair and yearning, poor guy. And I couldn't understand why he was so afraid to embrace The Land, so afraid of losing his grip on reality...this time around, I don't find them depressing, I find his strength of will quite impressive.

As for the other books...weren't they titled "Mirror of Her Dreams" and "A Man Rides Through"? Or am I getting them confused with something else? BTW...Donaldson has a new book out, which I've read, but I wasn't impressed at all...it has a contemporary setting and I rather wish he'd go back to Mordant (huh...maybe I'm just hung up on elves).

Dana

shera

I see past the stubble...I'm not looking at the hair...lol

but i do like hair on a man..hehehe

Edited by - shera on 1 January 2003 20:3:55

MrMoe

Elsewhere -- the army that came from nowhere were the followers (who were still true to the King) that followed the one guy who was banished because of the wormy guy that looked like a corpse walking.

I never read the books.. started to read the Hobbit but it was far too boring. Anyhow...

The scene where Legolas skatebaords on a shield is super cheesy. The lame jokes tossed in were super cheesy. Much of the acting was so totally low class, not by the main players... but I personally was really let down vs the first one, which I loved. If I can tell an actor is acting, it ruins it for me.

I liked it because it filled in the blanks of the first one, and I will watch the last one because I want to see what happens. Otherwise, to me as ashi said, another piece of Hollywood garbage.

Oh, and never EVER piss off a tree.

Edited by - MrMoe on 1 January 2003 20:19:30

Stephanus

MrMoe, you've reminded me of a couple of lies I left out of my list - Legolas emulating Michael J Fox in Back to the Future was one of them. The idiotic short jokes about Gimli sucked too.

Gandalf's exorcism of Theoden was a pack of lies, BTW.

Saruman's loyalty to Sauron was a pack of lies - he was only feigning fealty to the big S in the hope of getting hold of the Ring first.

As for the bloke at the end who turns up with Gandalf, that was Eomer, and in the book his band of warriors numbered around 150, and they were in Helm's Deep with everybody else. It was the ents, or more specifically the huorns (wild, almost treelike ents...or entlike trees) that beat the crap out of Saruman's army, after Isengard had been dealt with.

Stephen Donaldson? I tried, but never could. Have read fantasy sequences by others, such as Terry Brooks, David Eddings and Raymond Feist. Found them to be too busy copying Tolkein to spend any time actually being creative. Best non-Tolkien-inspired fantasy IMO is Ursula le Guin's Earthsea Trilogy. The only fantasy author I read with any regularity these days is Terry Pratchett.

safe4kids

Fantasy isn't my favorite genre but, as mentioned, there are a few authors I enjoy reading. I've not read any Feist or Eddings, just can't seem to get into them, but a couple of others I like are Terry Goodkind (Sword of Truth series, I believe they're called) and Anne McCaffrey's Pern series--nothing like Tolkien. I thought the Earthsea books were okay but my son really got into them.

Dana

yumbby

Just saw the Two Towers last night, It knocked my socks off! I loved every second of it. If It didn't follow the book perfectly, (which I'm in the process of reading) its okay, they have to do some things for logistics and timing... I know I couldn't do a better job! I can't say enough about that movie.

Me want Legolas... drool, drool. Go away girls!

P.S. I have almost everything written by Terry Goodkind... he's a fantastic fantasy writer.

FrankyFourVests

Terry Goodkind should be roasted slowly in a lava pit. Twice.

As for the movie, Jackson did as well as he could with the expectations put upon him. The movie isn't made for the rabid Tolkien fan that knows how many boot laces Frodo broke on his way to Mordor. It was made to appeal to the average joe while not pissing off the purists completely. Accept it. Or draw up a proposal and go pitch it to a movie producer yourself.

Hmmm

SPOILER ALERT:

I was surprised at how many times TTT took a major departure from the book, especially since Fellowship was very faithful (I only noticed the absence of Tom Bombadil in FoTR).

Some of the changes were for the better. Even though it distracted me, I liked the Elves' surprise appearance at Helm's Deep. Also, the final appearance of exiled Eomer with thousands(?!) of fellow horseriders wasn't too bad. I didn't like how it made the famed warriors of Rohan seem like wusses needing rescuing, but I always thought that having the Ents be the stars of Isengard and Helm's Deep was a bit too cozy.

The whole Aragorn-over-the-cliff scene was a bit of a distraction because I kept saying (not audibly, thank you) "that's not how it happened in the book!" But at the end of the day, I thought the scene added to the movie.

I was afraid of how they were going to handle Gollum, and pleasantly surprised at how well it turned out.

What was the point of having Faramir kidnap Frodo and Sam, and take them to something-giliath? Aren't there ANY noble Gondorians?

That having been said, I agree with FFV: Jackson has done a very good job so far. While some of his departures have been puzzling, all in all the end result should please those who have read and loved the books, and those who haven't read anything since See Spot Run.

Hmmm

PS FFV, the answer is NONE: Hobbits don't wear boots!!!

PPS I read the six Thomas Covenant books, and agree with expat. The detail was great from a world-building and scene-setting perspective, but booooooring. I kept saying, "I have to read 2000 pages of this?"

ashitaka

Tad Williams is pretty good as a departure from Tolkien. He wrote the Memory, Sorrow, Thorn trilogy......wonderful books. I recommend them for any Tolkien fan. It's a bit thick, but worth the whole read. It's very well developed. Best thing since Tolkien, and I've read a lot of books.

ash

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