How did it come about that we realized something wasn't right and others don't? What makes us so special? lol I have felt it for a good 10+ years but hung in there for my husband and children. I talked with him about it openly since the beginning of my doubts and am so thankful he finally started to investigate along with me into everything. But why us? I know there are others that are ten times brighter and cannier than we are! Why don't they get it???
So why us?
by scaredyetresolved 15 Replies latest jw friends
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Debz
Its a good thought to ponder - I often wonder the same about my mum and dad - why they stick to it so venimously. My parents are still `strong` even after me (their eldest) leaving 20years ago (DF) and in recent years two of my three sisters DF & DA. Ironically, there is only one sister left in it now and she and her husband won`t even speak to my parents - they say its because my parents ocassionally contact myself and my other sisters. So now my parents are dammed if they do and dammed if they dont speak to any of us........My sister once asked my mum why she stays and she says that she couldn`t live without some sort of faith! Hmmmmm and this coming from one of the `remnant`! She is very intelligent - but still wont / can`t question the basics even after the loss of all her blood family. Sad eh!
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DakotaRed
I don't believe it has anything to do with brightness or intelligence. For the longest time, I wanted it to be the truth, even though I could see it wasn't. Often times, we fail to see the obvious. Why? I imagine different reasons for each. Some may just refuse to see it, while others are thoroughly convinced it is true. Still others, like my exwife, will not take responsibility for herself and instead, places it all on the Society, lets them do her thinking for her.
For me, it wasn't so much theology as it was the doctrinal control and extreme lack of love.
Two sayings come to mind, "there are no so blind as those who will not see," and "you can lead a horse to water, but you cannot make him drink."
Lew W
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onacruse
Hi scaredyetresolved, and welcome to the forum!
Escaping the addictive hypnotic codependent paralyzing mind-bending soul-twisting dominating WTS is not a mind thing, imho. It's a heart thing. And sometimes circumstances just combine to touch a person's heart and move them, or force them, to FEEL the pain of that cult.
It took me 30 years to finally feel that pain, and even then I was forced to see it. Otherwise, I truly think I would have found yet another way to rationalize the whole thing.
Craig
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Big Tex
Why don't they get it???
Because they don't want to. People believe what they want to and many people hold on to their belief system because it is familiar and comfortable not because they truly believe it any longer. I gave my father in law "Crisis of Conscience" and he read it. He gave it back to me and said he didn't disagree with anything Raymond Franz had to say, but he was still going to meetings and wouldn't stop. He doesn't want to change because it's too much trouble and he still clings to his heavenly hope because that's all he has left.
He's also afraid to change. For many people it's terrifying to leave. It means more than just quitting the meetings and service. It means turning your back on friends and family. So I don't think it's that they "dont get it", it's a bit more involved since many different people have many different reasons.
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bikerchic
I've wondered that myself a lot lately. I haven't come to a solid conclusion but some thoughts I've had are that it's too much to give up, family, friends and some even are employed by JW's. When the cost are so high it's easier to go along although I think it can account for so many who really lack the love and don't go regularly to meetings, don't study, publish and ect. I saw a lot of that while I was in. After all is it really that bad......you have friends and family who will still associate with you and you are kept for the most part on the straight and narrow. It can be a good life, comfortable and people are just plain lazy, just go with the flo don't make waves, yadda, yadda, yadda.
It takes a lot to stand up for something and go against the norm, whatever the norm is for you. Most people just won't get outa their comfort zone. Then there are those who are prominant in the congos who don't want to give up their statis too.
Smarter than the rest of us, I think not, lazy may be a better word for them. I've learned that when the stayingis better than the leaving or vice versa that is what will motivate people.
I really think people like yourself and many here on this forum are some of the bravest people I have met. Many have given up way too much all in the name of freedom.
Katie (of the B'org free class)
Edited by - bikerchic on 21 December 2002 2:24:49
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Marcos
So the young pioneer says, "Here let me see your Bible. Ah, here it is, here is the name Jehovah right in your King James Bible!"
The old man at the door doesn't even look where the young man's finger is pointing. He snatches the Bible out of the pioneer's hands, rips the offending page out and throws it to the ground. "Now it ain't!" , he says.
Most of us don't want to be wrong and we CERTAINLY don't want to go to the trouble of changing. Look at what you are going through right now. For most people leaving their "comfort zone" for the real truth just isn't worth the trouble.
Marcos
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ugg
i don't know,,i just know it happened....i have not felt good about the organization for years!! stayed in because the problem must just be me!!! it MUST be the "truth"....
where does imperfection end and just plain cruelness start???? i have seen ant hills turned into mountains and mountains ignored!!
i have seen peoples lives crushed,,,,tears shed,,,ect ect...still i wonder why me??? why can't others see it...
yet i know what the society says..."bad heart condition",,,,i will probably be on medications and in therapy the rest of my life...the scars are very deep...
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SheilaM
For me it was the action of others that made me realize there was no love amongst the JW's so my going was easy no problem except really really bad angerFor my hubby he was told he would play as a small boy with a lion and he WANTED that with all his heart (I am bawling can you believe it they just PISSS ME OFF) so when we had our son, he thought oh not me but Anthony will be in paradise with the lion well Anthony is grown so he had the worst time in losing forever with me and his kids, they promised it he was so sure. They have taken not only his hope of eternity but his belief in God...I could really just torch the friggin Watchtower Society and watch it burn and laugh, because that is what they did to him they took everything and left him with doubt and questions. Now he realizes what life is all about but he knows it is limited and it has affected in ways I can't explain, many good his outlook, his joy, his writing but the anger is there and the bitterness.
As for the real ? before my rant, it is the same with alcholics or drugs the family some see the problem and say "hey there is a pink elephant in our living room" the others say "what are you crazy, there is no elephant as they pick up his trunk to walk past or push him aside to sit down on the couch" To many everything there life is about is the JW's they DON'T WANT TO SEE, for alot of us we had to see to survive. At least that is my take on it so far.
<of the glad I saw it for what it was class>
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Shutterbug
DakotaRed,
You're correct when you say you can't make that horse drink the water you've provided for him, but a really thirsty horse will drink almost any water. This is what happened to many of us, we were "thirsty" and we didn't examine the water closley enough. Bill