JT. Thankyou for coining the phrase "cheese and cracker men" I cant walk past these guys at price club without asking them for a shepherding call. They look at me with a confused look , and offer me more Cheese and crackers! Surreptitious, Nobody plays bass like the Gedmeister! And Johnny, I have a brand new plunger, and crevice tool just waiting for my visit, just might have to eat some Mexican tonight in preperation!