Do the loving elders hate you?

JH

Do you have the impression that the elders never liked you,

Edited by - JH on 26 December 2002 19:28:50

Elsewhere

The elder who "encouraged" me to the point of DAing myself so he would leave me alone became severely depressed and suicidal after I left.

I'm betting that he is wondering what a millstone feels like chained around his neck.

But whoever stumbles one of these little ones who put faith in me, it is more beneficial for him to have hung around his neck a millstone such as is turned by an ass and to be sunk in the wide, open sea. -- Matt. 18:6

I really don't think the elders give me too much thought. They didn't seem to care about us when we were JWs, they didn't care about us in the 8 years since we left, until suddenly they get instructions from the GB to track us down and make a shepherding call.

After they make the announcement that we are now DAd (because my husband told them we don't think of ourselves as JWs anymore), and there are a few shocked people who gasp because they knew us (but didn't care enough to "shepherd" us either), I think for the most part we'll be forgotten again.

I don't think it will even cross their minds the part they played in our exit. Honestly, if the congregation had treated us with love, compassion and support when we really needed it, and asked for it, we'd still be JWs today. I wouldn't have needed to examine my beliefs, and everything would have been hunky-dory. By showing their true colours, they really did us a huge favor.

Love, Scully

willdabeerman

as a person yes they hate me cuz i started thinking on my own. but as the budman they love me..(they dont even know how many times i see them,3 in particular at one of the bars i sell beer to)...but if it wasent for me delievering all that bud draft those hypocritical,im better than you,no we dont drink alot,or hang out in "worldly" bars,a-holes would be pissed.so they love me and they dont even know....

metatron

For many here, the emotion felt by elders is not hate precisely but rather
JEALOUSY and ENVY.

This is very jealous organization. I can't tell you how many times some 'faithful'
brother or sister rejoiced at my - or another's - loss. Your kid gets in trouble,
you lose a good job, you mispronounce a word, you name it - they rejoice - often,
right in your face. I tried very hard never to brag or boast in any way - and always
tried to elevate the achievements of the publishers. It did no good - they quietly
hate you anyway - if you are successful in life/work/marriage.

You drift away and a secret envy germinates - you're getting away and we can't
allow that! You can see this 'envious desire to punish' in actions like the Society's
letter to elders stating that elders/MS's aren't allowed to resign! The rest of the body
must approve!

Many people who post here display obvious intelligence and skill. As such, they will
be ready targets for the jealous attentions of those possessing feelings of 'unmerited
superiority', as the 'truth' provides.

metatron

Lady Lee

I think that despite everything the elders did like me as long as I was a good elder's wife.

Once they realized that I had information that would destroy the reputation of one of their own (my elder hubby) they turned their backs so fast my head spun. And they made sure I wouldn't even want to come back.

Hate me personally? no I don't think so

Hate the power I have and my inability to keep my mouth shut - yup for sure

Elsewhere

It just occurred to me that the elders don't like me much either. I have returned the KH two times, once for my sister's wedding (which my dad asked me to leave), and my aunt's funeral (my dad warned me not to talk to anyone).

Both times I was there I made it a point to be as friendly and social as possible. I talked to as many people as I could.

You should have seen the look on the elders' faces. There is a fatal flaw in their shunning policy: THEY are the one's who are forbidden to talk to me, not I who is forbidden to talk to them.

The elders are used to having the people under their thumbs. The elders actually manage to get DFed and DAed people to avoid other JWs. They didn't know that I was serious when I said, in my DA letter, I "am revoking the authority [they] have over me".

It is up to the individual publishers to to avoid me not the other way around.

Wolfy

I don't think they like me either. I was before a JC a few years back for something I had done in the past(long story) and there were 5 elders on the committee. Fun eh?

There is one nice elder in my hall and I actually asked him what the other elders thought about me. I said that there were 5 on my JC(he was not on that JC) and asked him why? He said they didn't know how to deal with me. They were puzzled because I am intelligent and was a MS as well as a Pioneer a few years before. I do know for a fact that two of them dislike me and make it quite obvious. On the other hand I am expecting a visit in the very near future..I am wondering who they will send?

Wolfy

zenpunk

There was an elder in particular who was after me, particularly because he didn't care for my attitude. It was tough because he was also my dad's boss. One thing kind of funny about him was that he had broken his middle finger once at the knuckle - thus he was always givin' everyone the finger!

RubyTuesday

We moved every six months for 10 years ...everywhere we went we had nothing but trouble with the elders..what a nightmare!!

LOL....the finger comment...

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Edited by - rubytuesday on 26 December 2002 19:11:56

Do the loving elders hate you?

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