Come on! NOTHING is Going To Refrom the WT!

by D8TA 28 Replies latest jw friends

  • LyinEyes
    LyinEyes

    I don't think the WT is going to reform. If they do make some changes, it will be to keep the ones who are so afraid to leave,,,they wil keep them with more fear and more brainwashing. The WT would only reform when they see masses of people leaving....... which they must be seeing. But they are too prideful to admit why they are doing it.

    If they reformed the blood issue, I would be pissed off,, if I were still in.....thinking of all the times I stood up for that belief and would have let my kids die for it. I can't forgive them for that, or all the other lives they have took, so to speak, because of those few men who made all the choice. That new light crap to cover their crap, makes me even sicker. When they see how many people are sick of their un biblical doctrines,,,,,,,, they change it slowly over time, until it is a totally different understanding.......claiming new light.

    Isnt it intersting, how concerned God is over their little doctrines and can waste His time,,, on all the GB's petty delusions,,,,yet he will not interceed on the sufferings of man as a whole. The whole WT thing is bullcrap.

    I think the only way I would ever go back , is if Jesus Christ himself came to ME , not the GB by way of the Watchtower magazine, and tell me too. Then if he did , I would probably question my own sanity and check myself into a mental hospital for seeing hallucinations. I guess you can tell I have lost all of my faith in the WT , and maybe even God.

  • scumrat
    scumrat

    That much is true. Nothing will reform the Watchtower. They've been at this deception for over 100 years and have become very skilled at it. With an arsenal of lawyers and public relations people, their "Think Tank" has not come across any problem that hasn't been solved through the use of previous tactics. While using there most potent weapon, Information Control, they see to it that this deception continues. I am not for reform. I'm for education. Education that teaches Dubs and Non Dubs about the tactics of this destructive cult. The Watchtowers biggest enemy is the internet and the liturature they print.

  • DannyBear
    DannyBear

    LyinEye's said;

    ***Isnt it intersting, how concerned God is over their little doctrines and can waste His time,,, on all the GB's petty delusions,,,,yet he will not interceed on the sufferings of man as a whole. The whole WT thing is bullcrap.***

    If I were God I wouldn't give them the satisfaction of allowing one single prediction, forecast, the slightest fulfillment! Oh wait a minute, it's true, not one single thing they have ever predicted has come true. I think God if he ever was interested in them probably lost interest sometime over a century ago.

    'Bullcrap' is very kind of you Lyin.

    Danny

  • LB
    LB

    I use the word reform as a buzzword whenever speaking to a witness about my society. At the very least I'm hoping to plant the idea that the society needs to be reformed. Eventually my hope is they'll grow tired waiting for it.

    I doubt there will ever be any serious reforms or newlights within the society. When you are guided by god there is never a need for reform.

  • metatron
    metatron

    First, we need to use the word 'reform' carefully because even the tiniest ethical
    impulse felt by any Watchtower leader will be quickly diluted by hypocrites and Pharisees
    who control the many committees.

    Reform comes from: 1) the threat of legal action and loss of money
    2) public humiliation and exposure of the organization
    3) - and least of all - the effect on publishers - who are willing dupes.

    Doctrinal points mean little because most Witnesses will simply tune out and lie to
    themselves, as they are taught to do. Once you swallow the hook and the line, the sinker
    follows easily. The GB CAN DO almost anything and not have publishers rebel - except,
    perhaps, to make them more tired and burned out - but don't try to find the bottom here!

    Like Communism, things fell apart , NOT BECAUSE the proletariat revolted - but because
    nobody in charge believed in it anymore. They went thru a long period where things quietly
    rotted away - while appearing monolithic. Sound familiar?

    I think the GB/committees preserve doctrine out of stubborness, more than any objective
    belief - or the threat of exposure, in the case of the fraudulent blood transfusion policies.

    metatron

  • benext
    benext

    With the continued passing of time and the continued aging of its members along with the realization that Armageddon will probably not be in their lifetime something will have to give. There are many who would leave but due to being isolated from life (reality) are believing the "world" will swallow them up. Every passing day, month, year will cause doubt, fear, and eventually drive more and more out.

  • imanaliento
    imanaliento

    why would we want them to reform?

    they are a great topic for discussion, are they not?

  • happyout
    happyout

    I don't know if they will ever reform, but what about a group forming an offshoot, much like how the witnesses were formed to begin with? If the WTS keeps disfellowshipping those with any different viewpoints, eventually they will have to disfellowship large groups that are trying to reform (like the group that wants to change the blood doctrine). Perhaps those groups will then form their own religion, and it will be more accepting of different viewpoints. Maybe become something like a non-denominational group, with non of the stupid rules and threats. Actually, I might even visit a church like that from time to time, although I doubt I would ever "join" anything again.

  • izobcenec
    izobcenec

    Who said anything about reform anyway?

  • metatron
    metatron

    No offshoot of any size is likely to emerge because no doctrine particular to the
    Watchtower has any basis in hard fact. It's simply an accumulated patchwork of speculations
    held together by repressive authority. Only organizational authority is central to the
    Watchtower, doctrine is always malleable.

    metatron

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