Help needed from First Nations/Native Americans

by LDH 14 Replies latest jw friends

  • LDH
    LDH

    Hey guys I need some help.

    I'm trying to get my certification for being partly First Nations--my maternal grandfather is Blackfeet.

    I've already visited the Bureau of Indian Affairs website from the Feds...but I'm having a problem. Some of the documents I need, my maternal family has.

    Two issues:

    1. Some documents were destroyed in a house fire in Buffalo NY around 1988.

    2. The rest of the documents, well, let's just say as I'm persona non-grata (Chief Apostate Numero Uno) they will not even talk to me much less give me the documents I need.

    What do you suggest?

    Lisa

    Edited by - LDH on 17 January 2003 14:26:8

  • Mulan
    Mulan

    Can you get birth certificate for your grandfather? It would say his race. That's how I found out for sure about our NA ancestry..............it was my great grandparent's marriage record, actually.

    See if the Blackfeet have a website. My family's nation does. http://www.brothertownindians.org/

    I sent you an email too.

    Edited by - mulan on 17 January 2003 14:43:57

  • heathen
    heathen

    Try getting a court order to abtain the documents.

  • LyinEyes
    LyinEyes

    Liaa ,I have no idea how to go about doing this. My family are Caddo Adai Indidans, from caddo parish here in Louisiana. Alot of them have some kind of card saying that they are indeed who they say they are,,,,,,,,, Iheard the card is green, but not sure? Being JW I never got involved with all the Pow Wows and such. But you might go to a Pow Wow in your area , maybe it wouldnt matter which tribe and see if they can help you. I will do some looking into this , but not sure if I will find anything.

    Do any other family members have their card? It is hard to trace some family down. The leader of our family pow wows lives in Houston , Texas, so it is hard to get in touch with him.

    Good luck Lisa, let me know what you find out , ok..........Dede

    Caddo Adai Indian Tribe prepares for annual Pow Wow

    Chief Rufus Davis of the Caddo Adai Tribe will participate in the seventh annual Pow Wow July 5.

    The seventh annual Caddo Adai Indian Tribe of Louisiana Pow Wow will be held from 10 a.m.-6 p.m. Saturday, July 5 at St. Anne's Church Hall, Caddo Adai Indian Community. The church is located on Highway 485 6.2 miles north of Robeline.

    The event will feature traditional Indian dances by the Caddo Tribe of Louisiana and the Caddo tribe of Oklahoma and tours of the historic Church of St. Anne. Special guest Marvin Johnson and the War Party (Northern Drum) will also be featured, as well as authentic Indian arts and crafts, a cake sale and teepee displays.

    Concessions will include Indian fry bread, Indian tacos, Indian tamales, roasted corn, meat pies, crawfish pies, old fashioned hamburgers, hot dogs, snow cones and soft drinks. No alcoholic beverages or drugs will be permitted.

    A $500 cash prize will be awarded at a 5 p.m. drawing.
    Guests are encouraged to bring lawn chairs.

    The Adais people, a tribe belonging to the great Caddo Confederacy, were an agricultural people who, because of the ideal location between the Souteast and the plains of Texas, became successful merchants and traders. The principal Adais village was located on a small creek near the present town of Robeline, about 12 miles west of Natchitoches.

    The first historical mention of the Adais was made by the Spaniard Cabeza de Vaca in 1530. Early French explorers including Iberville and Joutel also chronicled their meeting with the Adais Indians. The Adais were very interested in trade and commerce with these Europeans. In the process of interaction, they became attached to both French and Spanish settlers in the surrounding areas. The result was that, although the Adais spoke a Caddoan dialect, many also spoke French and Spanish. The adoption of French and Spanish as an expedient to trade also began a swift period of assimilation into white culture.

    In the fall of 1716, the Spanish founded a mission, San Miguel de los Adaes. Five years later in 1721, they founded a presidio, (fort) which they called Presidio de Neustra del Pilar de Los Adaes. The presidio was established to protect the mission and to strengthen Spain's position against the French, who founded a fort at Natchitoches in 1714. For almost 50 years, Los Adaes was the capitol of the Spanish Province of Texas.

    In 1769, the Spanish abandoned Los Adaes and relocated the Provincial capitol to San Antonio de Bexar. When the garrison left, 14 Adais families accompanied it. These families settled near San Antonio and historians have concluded that they were absorbed into other Indian groups and eventually lost their identity. However, Adais family records indicate that some of the families returned to rejoin the tribe about 20 years later.

    By the time of the Louisiana purchase in 1803, the Adais, like the other Caddo tribes, had been severely weakened by more than a century of contact with Europeans. Few still lived a traditional lifestyle.

    The Americans eventually establisehd an Indian Agency for the Caddos just south of the present-day Shreveport. By that time the majority of the Adais had so successfully adopted white lifestyle that they were unrecognizable as Indians. Most remained on their original tribal lands, where they farmed individually and owned homesteads. When the Caddo ceded their land to the United States in 1835, the Adais people were no longer visible. They remained on their land and were unaffected by the move west.

    For almost 200 years, they Adais Indians have been integrated into white society. Despite outward appearances, individuals in the tribe passed on what they could of their traditions and heritage. Of the five major tribes that formed the Caddo Confederacy, only the Adais remain as an identifiable group.

    Davis is my maiden name, and Rufus Davis is my second cousin,,,,,,,,,,he is the one who now lives in Houston , Texas.

    Edited by - LyinEyes on 17 January 2003 14:35:36

  • LDH
    LDH

    Mulan,

    To my knowledge, there was no official BC for my grandfather who was born at home (as most were) on Blackfeet Territory.

    I do know that he cooked on the railroad, as did many Native Americans including the man who invented the potato chip.

    He traveled from Buffalo to Chicago I think. With a little research I could find out the name of the railroad line, but I'm not sure they would release any info.

    help?!?!?

    Lisa

  • LyinEyes
    LyinEyes

    You may have seen this site already but here it is just in case:

    http://students.washington.edu/fnuw/

  • Sargon
    Sargon

    Good Luck!!!

    You'll need it. I don't know if it's any different in the U.S. than it is up here but my girlfriend is 75% Ojibwa. She's been trying to get her status recognized for over 30 years. Her mom was adopted at birth back in the 30's, even though she was a native being adopted by a native family she had her status revoked. There is so much red-tape involved in this whole process that you'll have to assess wether or not it's worth the hassle.

  • meadow77
    meadow77

    LDH-Your specific tribe should have a number where you can reach them directly and explain your predicament. If there is something that can be done, they should be able to direct you. I would agree that they probably have a website as well. Does your mother have a card? Because usually as long as you can prove that you have a blood relative on the roles, you can get a card. If your mother does not have a card or will not give you here info, it could be trickier, but usually the administration of your tribe can be quite helpful.

  • LDH
    LDH

    Thank you Meadow.

    My mother wouldn't give me the time of day, much less information to help me. She's a good little dubby!

    Sargon, interesting. Does Canada have an equivalent of Bureau of Indian Affairs?

    Lisa

  • Utopian_Raindrops
    Utopian_Raindrops

    LDH,

    To get proof of birth and race of any naturally born relatives you can sometimes get records from the church. If any of your relatives were Christianized their church will have records of birth, baptism, confirmation, etc.

    I know this because my father who is Mexican was born in a cotton field in Texas.

    We got all his information from The Catholic Church in Brownsville Texas.

    Now my Grandmother who was born here but had Russian immigrant parents had no Christian association when born. We think (because of a lot of Yiddish thrown around in conversation) they were Jews who fled.She was raised Luthren though and thats another story.

    My point is when we needed birth certificate and such for her when it came time for social security and such for old age benefits there was no record of her birth. My mother had to go to the area my grandmother was born in and get signed, notarized, written testimonies from people whom new of her birth. Eyewitness was preferable but my grandmother was old. So neighbors who lived near by were good enough.

    Hope this helps even just a little.

    Ciao 4 now,

    Agape,U_R

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