*sigh*
Let's get back to point A.
I read your post.
The biggest obstacle for most minorities to achieve some form of success today is their own subculture of ignorance, victimization, and entitlement. Asian people came to America suffered the same set of unfair circumstances and made it, why not the black of Indian community? Read my previous post if you want my view. I think most of the reparations supporters should keep in mind what they want is some payment for a crime that never happened to them, and they want the people that did not commit it to pay. The playing field is mostly equal now so succeed or rot nobody stole your building blocks.
Terry
I see a statement:
"Asian people came to America suffered the same set of unfair circumstances"
Because of that statement I was concerned so I said that I was not interested in your previous post unless "you have already enumerated and documented the accusation you have of what happened to the Indigenous People and the Black People with the Asian People. "
My mistake was looking up YOUR research for you.
"My point, which you will never get, is that the whole concept of someone paying for their genetic precursors sins is itself a racist idea; completely at odds with MLKs color blind society. That is why you are a racist"
We are talking about reparations from a promise made by a government that did not keep their promise. To state otherwise is quite racist in itself.
There are legal precedents in place world wide for reparations for survivors as well as victims.
I have never said and will never make the comparison of the Asian against the African. It was YOUR statement, little one, that made me even think of the 2.
It is you, little one, who used the word "same". Here is the definition for your benefit.
ADJECTIVE:
1. Being the very one; identical: the same boat we rented before.
2. Similar in kind, quality, quantity, or degree.
3. Conforming in every detail: according to the same rules as before.
So since you used the word, same, I was just wondering were the Asian brought here by force or did they choose. Were the Asians able to keep their culture, language and education? Were the children of the Asians taken from them so that they could not be taught the skills of the parents? After the Asians attained their freedom (same circumstances) and they acquired cities where they became doctors, lawyers, teachers, etc. Did the jealous people constantly come and burn them out and never give them any insurance, blame them for burning down their cities? And after the years of lynchings of the Asian males for looking at white women, walking on the wrong side of the street and answering in the wrong way (talking back) image did they young men have to look up to as they grew up fatherless?
I understand the Asian dilemma. And I admire their ability to overcome. That is why you will never see an Asian, White, etc in the prison system and poor.
Bravo for your analogy.
Then again...when one does see (and I use the term 'when' loosely) a poor Asian, an uneducated or criminal White. What are we all to think of him? So blessed in your eyes and having so much going for him. What becomes of the image of a White man who is a successful criminal, murderer or rapist? I'll tell you what...they make movies about him and it becomes Oscar material.
Think about it.
By the way, have you ever read the reporter's story called "Black Like Me"?
I think the problem here, little one, is that you are not focused. I have never come here to argue, although you seem to want to. I have always been willing to see another point of view, that is why I ask for research. I have never argued against the Asian position. Arguing and asking for the back up of your comparisons are 2 different issues. Sooo, I see from your post that you know Klansmen. Now it all fits.
"You are the first person I have met, that was not a klansmen" I've never met a Klansman. Not knowingly anyway. Wow...deep
Asians were not allowed to marry whites (like they really wanted to with the beautiful women they already had. LOL funny)
At one point Asian women could not immigrate to America (at one point no women were allowed. So they just ravaged the indigenous woman!)
Asians could only work in certain jobs (Gold mining labors, laundry workers, prostitutes) Wow, they had jobs. Were they paid? Or were they paid and then had to buy from the owner's store? Were they educated enough to read or were they left uneducated so that when they were paid they weren't cheated.
Asians had to pay a special foreign miners tax that was created just for them (yep, sounds pretty much like the status quo to me)
Asians could not own land (oh so that is why they didn't get burned out. Well that was actually a protection in the long run, thank God)
Asians were paid a fraction of what white co-workers were paid when they tried to strike they were starved into submission
Asians were interned during World War II
Wow, who did all these bad things to the Asians? Pretty gloomy, although, in your words, they are not the "SAME CIRCUMSTANCE".
Wow, those folks who did this to Asians, Blacks, Jews, Irish, Indigenous, women and children were just a bunch of bullies who left the 20th and the 21st century holding a big bag of ....
And my point is that if all these bad things happened to the Asians and they overcame, I wonder what would have happened if they had to overcome under the SAME CIRCUMSTANCES that African slaves had to overcome (and many did. Read your Black history). And by the way...all Asians weren't interned. Only the Japanese. They're different, you know.
Sable at the table.