by Perry 41 Replies latest jw friends
th-
i dont appreciate the name-calling, especially since weve never even engaged in a discussion before, and you dont know me from adam........but i suppose it does expose you for what you are, which is beneficial to other readers. i will work on a list of quotes for you in my free time....there are many quotes defending saddams right to be in power, obviously youve only read what you wanted to.
aa
Keep your dictator, he doesn't care what the people he supposedly represents, care about.
Ok, quit humping the fire hydrant hound dog. Here's a few busicuits you requested.
I believe the quotes below from recent previous threads constitute a defense for Saddaam remaining in power.
great! so leave iraq alone.
these people are fighting for their country just like the kurds or israelis are fighting for theirs. ...
The problem with the case for war is the assumption that if Iraq DOES have WMD, he will use them against the entire world, because he is some kind of megalomaniac or something. Which is just silly.
Why don't we just leave?
Saddam may be cruel (well, okay, IS cruel), but is none of those other things. He doesn't HATE the US and desire our destruction. He has demonstrated he is willing to fight a way in his region to gain more local control, but that's it.
Th please try and refrain from acting like an asshole by calling people assholes. Oh course, if this is something personal, you are always welcome to call me and we can get this settled man to man.
Not personal, but I will say this, if you support bush your un-american!
Dear Minority President Bush:
As you go about your business today please remember that in the presidential election, 539,987 more U.S. citizens preferred another man be president.
with love from the UK
Thats only people that voted. That doesnt count the 50% of Americans who sit on their ass. So the true support of Bush could go either way
Either way he's better than Gore! Gore would have surrendered to Saddam a couple of months ago. Probably would have given Saddam Texas.
th-
heres a few, as promised.....ill get more later if i have time, thanks.....
Yes, Saddam wants WMD to 'protect' his interests (and they may include control over more of the region than he has now). Why is this an OK motive for the US but not Saddam? ..........Saddam has shown he wants more control over his region of the world, and wants the US out. Why should that be a threat to us?
We COULD treat his country like any other world power, like every other country has a right to. But, not Iraq? Why? Because the 'civilized world' is a closed "US and friends only" club?
>>> http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.aspx?id=45024&site=3&page=3
No, Saddam's way is not "good". But there are many other "bad" states out there and who gets to decide which can stay and which has to go? Where does the USA get off deciding which nation is "rouge"??
>>> http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.aspx?id=44682&site=3&page=9
Saddam has a right to defend himself and his country. Same as us.
>>> http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.aspx?id=44682&site=3&page=9
Everybody has a right to defend themselves against agression. If I was Saddam, I would have me a couple of WMD too.
>>> http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.aspx?id=44682&site=3&page=8
in case you need clarification on those last two...you cannot possibly defend saddams right to have wmd without also defending his right to rule. if you need any other explanations, let me know.
aa
gsx1138
Glad to see linear thought is still alive and well. I thought for a second there we may have become enlightened. I don't think there is anyone who supports Saddam even in his own country. But blind Bush followers seem too thick headed to realize that anyone who disagrees with U.S. foreign policy aren't in favor of Saddam. This kind of Black and White thinking is immature and unrealistic. When was the last time you heard something about our war on Terrorism. Despite his best efforts Bush has provided no link between Al Quieda and Saddam. Your all being played. I think some of you even have your own questions about what Bush is doing but like a good Dub you push away those questions in favor of blind nationalism.
I believe in some cases this does occur "Blind Faith", but I believe more often some of you ex-dubs go against absolutely everything you run acrossed in life for fear you might be a follower. Over correcting if you will. I think this blaming everything on the cult is way out of hand, get over it already, and find something else to blame for a while. The fact of the matter is, YOU are showing Borg mentallity by attacking others for having an opinion outside of your's. Quite hypocritical I'd say. (and for having the same stupid stock answers every time someone holds an opinion outside of your's). If you're going to debate something, debate the facts, don't fluff it up with off the wall nonsense. If you dig deep enough you might have some valid points down in there somewhere without accusing people of a being a "Good Dub".
The trick is to have a balance, and I don't believe anyone here supports an invasion of Iraq because Bush says so. I for one don't care if Mickey Mouse calls the order, as long as it gets done. Will innocent people die? Yes, of course, and that just plain sucks. But innocent people have died in every war that's ever taken place. Some wars are for a good cause, some aren't. Is Bush doing this for selfish reasons? I have no idea and I don't care, again, as long as it gets done. We do have a Hitler on our hands, and we can't make the same mistake twice. We waited too long the first time around, and this time if we're jumping the gun....good! That means we'll end (or lessen) the suffering in Iraq a day sooner.
Trauma_Hound
one of your dumbass pres. bushes staff was quoted as saying that if 0% of the US People supported a war with Iraq, he would still go to war with them. You can take your dictator and shove it wear the sun don't shine!
Well, good for President Bush......you know, with the election coming up next year, that takes some balls. At least he has them, and he's doing what he feels is the right thing to do. Personally I think making that statement is further proof of such.
Trauma_Hound
our president is a dictator, doesn't care what the US public thinks, so clearly he's not a "patriot", in fact, what was said was quit treasonus, so go defend your little dictator why don't you.
You might have a point. I must say he concerns me from time to time, but what are ya gonna do? I don't care what or who he is as long as he helps those people, and us!
Crazy151drinker
Either way he's better than Gore! Gore would have surrendered to Saddam a couple of months ago. Probably would have given Saddam Texas.
LMFAO! You got that right. Him and his "Let's be friends"......I think he's Rodney King's brother or something. I don't know, who cares who does the job and why as long a it gets done, that's how I look at it. It's long overdue. Just like you guys seem upset that someone implied you're 'Saddam supporters', don't you think, even for a second, perhaps some of us are not holding this opinion because we're 'Bush Supporters'? I for one am behind the man most of the time, but like I said, he concerns me on occasion, just like every President in the past. It comes with the territory. But my support for the invasion of Iraq has absolutely nothing to do with Bush. On the contrary, I voted for Bush because I knew he'd invade Iraq. You could tell in the presidential debates, he was aching to go, and I'm behind that 110%. Does that make me anti-American? No, that makes me human, with an opinion. Yeah, I could be wrong, just like you guys. None of us have all the answers.
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in case you need clarification on those last two...you cannot possibly defend saddams right to have wmd without also defending his right to rule. if you need any other explanations, let me know.
I have to say......if any of you guys think we don't have the same weapons, wake up. We have them all and more, and Saddam has every right in the world to defend his country.
The problem is his track record.....the difference is, we don't test these weapons on our own people (not on a grand scale anyway). The simple fact of the matter is, the US is screwed no matter how you slice it. One of these days China is going to come down on us like moles on gramma, and we'll be finished. So, we might as well take a few of their allies out while we have a chance.
No, this is not my argument, haha, just talk.
Rev,
I have to agree with you. Im sure if Sweden had a couple of Nukes, no-one would give a shit.
