Thank God That Hanging Has Been Abolished.

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  • Englishman
    Englishman

    Just about 3 decades ago, this lady would have been executed by hanging by the neck until she was dead.

    Yes, I am glad that Capital Punishment is outlawed in Europe, aren't you?

    Englishman.

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     Wednesday, 29 January, 2003, 17:51 GMT Solicitor accused of killing sons freed Sally Clark and her husband Stephen outside court Sally Clark and her husband Stephen outside court A solicitor jailed for murdering her two baby sons has been cleared by the Court of Appeal.

    Three judges decided that Sally Clark's conviction was "unsafe".

    The 38-year-old, from Wilmslow, Cheshire, had always protested her innocence since being jailed for life in November 1999 at Chester Crown Court.

    She was convicted of smothering 11-week-old Christopher in December 1996 and shaking eight-week-old Harry to death in January 1998 at the luxury home she shared with her husband Stephen.

    Sally and Stephen Clark in happier times with their first son Christopher
    Today is not a victory. We are not victorious. There are no winners here.

    Sally Clark
    Sally Clark's statement in full
    A composed Mrs Clark emerged from the cells at 1540 GMT to be hugged and kissed by her husband.

    Mrs Clark said: "Today is not a victory. We are not victorious. There are no winners here.

    "We have all lost out. We simply feel relief that our nightmare is finally at an end.

    "I would like to thank the hundreds of people who have written to offer me their support.

    "These letters have been my lifeline - a source of great comfort especially during my bleak times and I've read and re-read every single one.

    Brain infection

    "Be in no doubt, it was a tough experience to be in prison.

    "The support that I received while I was in there has made it much more bearable."

    Sally Clark Case Timeline
    Dec 1996 11-week-old Christopher dies Jan 1998 Eight-week-old Harry dies Nov 1999 Sally Clark jailed Oct 2000 Court of Appeal: "overwhelming" case against her Jan 2003 Freed after new appeal
    Crucial evidence that set Clark free
    The court had been told that new medical evidence that suggested Harry Clark may have been suffering from a brain infection was withheld from her defence team.

    The judges, Lord Justice Kay, Mr Justice Holland and Mrs Justice Hallett, told the court: "We are satisfied that the trial of this appeal was not a fair trial in that the jury were deprived of the opportunity of hearing and considering medical evidence that may have influenced their decision."

    The General Medical Council (GMC) said it was considering whether to take action against two pathologists whose evidence helped convict Mrs Clark.

    Dr Alan Williams initially said Harry had died from being shaken - and then changed his finding to smothering during the trial.

    Michael Green, professor of forensic pathology at Sheffield University, who has since retired, also changed his opinion about the cause of death.

    Frank Lockyer
    It's very easy to be proud of one's daughter when they are taking A-levels and university degrees. But the real time to be proud is how they react when the chips are down

    Frank Lockyer
    A GMC spokeswoman said: "We are aware of the doctors and are considering whether action, if any, needs to be taken."

    Mrs Clark burst into tears as the verdict was announced and later mouthed "I love you" to her husband.

    Frank Lockyer, Mrs Clark's father, said his feeling was one of "total admiration" for his daughter and son-in-law and for the way they had coped over the last five years.

    He added: "It's very easy to be proud of one's daughter when they are taking A-levels and university degrees.

    "But the real time to be proud is how they react when the chips are down."

    Earlier, the Crown had indicated that if Mrs Clark won her appeal they would not be seeking a retrial.

    Pathologist criticised

    Clare Montgomery QC, for Mrs Clark, said that new evidence emerged in 2000 that there was a staphylococcus aureus infection which had spread as far as Harry's cerebral spinal fluid.

    She the prosecution pathologist Dr Alan Williams, who had carried out post mortems on both babies, had known about this evidence since February 1998.

    Microbiological test results demonstrated Harry probably died suddenly in reaction to the bacteria, she added.

    Lord Justice Kay also criticised Dr Williams, saying the medical evidence was not disclosed because of his "failure... to share with other doctors investigating the cause of death information that a competent pathologist ought to have appreciated needed to be assessed before any conclusion was reached.

    "The Court of Appeal on the previous occasion reached their conclusions wholly unaware of this aspect of the matter."

    He added: "We have no doubt that the resulting convictions are, therefore, unsafe and must be quashed."

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      The BBC's Margaret Gilmore "There were dramatic scenes in court"
      Sally Clark gives her reaction to the ruling "We have all lost"
      Microbiologist Dr David Drucker "I'm very, very pleased"

    Click here to go to Manchester See also:
    28 Jan 03 | England The case of Sally Clark 29 Jan 03 | England Crucial evidence that set Clark free 28 Jan 03 | England 'Secret' evidence in baby killer appeal 29 Jan 03 | England Sally Clark: Statement in full 02 Jul 02 | England Baby killer's case to be reviewed 29 Jan 03 | Health Q&A: The medical evidence Internet links:
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  • Crazy151drinker
    Crazy151drinker

    English,

    Are you being sarcastic????

  • Englishman
    Englishman
    English,

    Are you being sarcastic????

    Absolutely not!

    This lady was misrepresented so badly at trial, that, had capital punishment been in force, she would have been hanged for murder.

    The prosecution "expert" witnesses said that the chances of 2 children of the same mother dying of cot death were 73 million to 1. On that basis the jury convicted her and subsequent appeals failed.

    It's now know that the chances of another baby dying from cot death after a first baby has died, are actually around 100 to 1.

    At the time of the trial, the so-called evidence seemed strong enough for a life-time prison sentence, in the 60's this would have been a sentence of death.

    Englishman.

  • JeffT
    JeffT

    A good example of why I'm opposed to capital punishment. It is a government program and they will screw it up.

  • Robdar
    Robdar

    Englishman,

    Interesting article. Thank you for posting it. Another interesting article was this one: Farmers must keep pigs happy The British are so civilized. Love, Robyn

  • Undecided
    Undecided

    Yes, God invented the sword at the entrance to the Garden Of Eden for that sort of pinishment, but wait, didn't Soloman's son get hanged? Oh well, I guess drowning, fire, bears etc. works just as well, or maybe the jawbone of an ass, sling shot like David's. Maybe an angel works better. Old age takes a little longer than a virus, but a good heart parasite does the job just fine. The list goes on and on untill we all get the bonk eventually. This is so uplifting.

    Ken P.

  • ashitaka
    ashitaka

    Eman-I just imagined if that poor woman was killed for it....horrible. It makes me, a person who normally supports the death penalty, to think twice about it.

    Robdar-can you see the headline Sow Sues Owner in 'Right to Party Hardy' case

  • Sargon
    Sargon

    Good thread E-man,

    Personally I'm in favor of capital punishment, but whenever someone shows me stories like this I have to think twice. How do we as a society deal with people we KNOW commit these heinous (sp?)crimes and what do we do when we find they are innocent??

  • Crazy151drinker
    Crazy151drinker

    Kill em all and let God sort em out!

    Harsh, yes, but it works. I remember seeing this quote on a shirt when I was in the Army.

  • Englishman
    Englishman

    ..Er, Ken:

    The list goes on and on untill we all get the bonk eventually.

    From:http://www.bikereader.com/BikeReader/contributors/Chippendale/usuk.html

    Bonk? While hardcore (now there's a word) cyclists will know what you mean, to the general British public it means roughly the same as 'shag', in the naked, heaving bodies sense of the word. For some reason, a great many American cycling garments have taken the form of indiscreet British words. Suspenders? Oh no, I'm afraid that's how we refer to a lady's garter belt. So, when traveling in England, don't ever say that you're going to attach your suspenders to your knickers and ride 'til you bonk. Oh, and is anyone interested in a l'il bugger? Neither should you be offended if someone asks if you fancy a fag at the top of the hill.................etc

    Englishman.

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