by JH 57 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
Regarding Solomon's "wisdom" in directing the baby to be chopped in half: how did he know that one of the women would actually step in and just let the wrong mother have the child? What if both women were just plain sicko's who would just let the baby die? Did he think of that possibility?
It's fiction people. Get over your God hang-up.
One of the last verses in the bible, which talked about altering the bible, which we know the WTS did, by adding and leaving out words.
The other one about if they claim to be prophets, and it doesn't come true..... run!
I always found the story of Balaam a bit puzzling. God appears to Balaam one night and tells him to go with the servants of Balak. He obeys and goes with them. This makes God very angry, so he sends an angel to stop Balaam. After stopping him, the angel instructs him to keep going.
?!
In keeping with the Memorial 'season'...and being of the 'other sheep' here's one that I could never understand.
John 6:53 Jesus said to them, "I tell you the truth, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you."
Does anyone know if the WTS has ever explained how this scripture applies to the other sheep?
Cheers Artful
Christians quoting john 1:1 at me used to give me a bit of a hard time. Also, the alpha omega thing in revelation. It seems to describe both.
SS
Regarding Solomon's "wisdom" in directing the baby to be chopped in half: how did he know that one of the women would actually step in and just let the wrong mother have the child? What if both women were just plain sicko's who would just let the baby die? Did he think of that possibility?
If they didn't care about the baby they would not have come before THE KING OF ISRAEL to argue over it. I have to address one persons(a) who says that it is so simple of a problem to solve with the method he chose that it isn't even wisdom and then another guy(b) thinks that Solomon was dumb because he was too bold in his solution.
a) The problem went unresolved, and they were brought before the King. The King acts like he doesn't care and this has gone on too long, kill the damn kid. Problem solved justice served. The simplicity is what makes it brilliant.
b) Solomon would have been prepared for the case before they came in and told his guards to not actually killed the kid even though he said to do it. The shock alone would cause the real mother to cry out. When you are King of Israel then go ahead and call the other ones stupid.
The simplicity is what makes it brilliant.
Has to be simple doesn't it. Then you can belabor the point in a watchtower study for an hour just to make sure you actually get it.
starscream,
Your second point is another attempt at adding to the Bible to make it more palatible and logical. Why doesn't it just say this fact you hypothesize to ease the minds of people like me? Why not? I'll tell you why not -- because it is a
myth.
Bradley
From the perspective of one of those born again pain in the butts that has had over a dozen elders running from his house stumbling over themselves and their words, let me give you a few that I have used that seem to get to the people I gave them too.
Gen 1:26
And God said, Let us make man in our imagelinked with
Gen 1:27 So God created man in his [own] image,
Gen 11:7 Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another's speech.
A JW of 35 years admitted to me that the WT's reasoning behind these scriptures never made sense to her, she just put it down to her own lack of understanding rather than them being wrong.. amazing....
The Thomas "my Lord and my God" is good, but its better from the KIT, ( I think someone mentioned this already??) "The Lord of me and the God of me".
I have now taken to showing the dub in front of me that less than 20% of the NT is actually for them according to the WTBTS, it can only be that much as they are not anointed, so...
a) can they please highlight for me in my bible ( I got half a dozen spare NWT's that I use for the occasion) the ones that are for them.
b) ask them if they show the new convert these verses to save them reading things that have nothing to do with them...??
Funnily, this is usually about the time that they are leaving.. either that or when I show them Isaiah 43:10: "You are my witnesses," says the LORD, "and my servant whom I have chosen, that you may know and believe me and understand that I am He. Before me no god was formed, nor shall there be any after me. .... but then ask if Jehovah created the 'mighty god' Jesus?
If I think of anymore I'll add them.
Sam
Your second point is another attempt at adding to the Bible to make it more palatible and logical.
There was nothing illogical in that passage. Someone decided that Solomon made a potentially dangerous decision based on his own SPECULATION. I merely made the point that Solomon probably had more information than he realizes. You apparently want the bible to anticapte every attack concievable and pre-emptively defend itself or you are unsatisfied. The problem is that there are at least 800 billion things you can say to question something in the bible. If the bible tried to pre-empt everyone it would defeat the purpose of even having the bible because it would take 8000 years to read it.
This question that has been raised is very easy to address. It was based on UNFOUNDED speculation. So I answered with a perfectly plausible and LIKELYscenario that would satisfy the question.
So you think that two women just burst in on the King in his throne room and started bickering? You don't think that there was some security check points they had to get past first?
I will assume you agree that is logical. Therefore it is quite reasonable to also assume that before they were allowed to pass to see the King they would have to have a reason. So is it so hard to imagine that an escort told Solomon that their are two women who are arguing over a child, and asked him if he would like to see them? If I were King I would appreciate it if someone announced unexpected visitors before I had to see them. I mean it is just common courteousy and perfectly normal for any judicial proceedings.
My point was perfectly valid, but if you don't like the bible and think it is a myth, that's fine.
