by Fisherman 34 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
Fisherman,
Just because other groups add their own requirements for baptism does not give Jehovah's Witnesses the right to add to the gospel and make Extra-biblical dates and loyalty to men requirements for baptism.
Your trust is in men and their interpretations rather than the clear gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ. And that is why you do not know Jesus Christ. And that is why He is not your Saviour. And that is why you cannot call yourself a child of God.
does not give Jehovah's Witnesses the right to add to the gospel and make Extra-biblical dates and loyalty to men requirements for baptism.
By who’s authority?
JW proclaim they are the authority, the only true religion on earth and God’s agency to the nations. Based on JW being God’s organization you are equivocating.
For example back in the 1 century the apostles had authority from God. There were those that were going around believing that the resurrection already occurred and other beliefs and such of a different faith were not true Christians although believing in Jesus (as brought out in the epistles ) as many do today.
Today, JW claim to have authority from God which gives them jurisdiction on qualifications for baptism. If you reject that, it’s up to you.
However, JW are not adding to the gospels in their interpretation of 1914 either. As JW interpret the gospel JC alluded to the Gentile Times in the future which adds up to 1914 as JW see it.
JW interpretations and claims haven’t been debunked. 1914 adds up and there is evidence JW publish to support it.
Fisherman
The scriptures are the authority. They tell you not to put your trust in men. The Apostles were directly appointed by Christ to lay the foundation for faith by believing in their word.
Your trust is in men and their word and that is why you are not saved, you are not a child of God, you do not know or have a relationship with Jesus Christ as all New Testament Christians did.
Your faith is in the interpretations of men that contradict the clear salvation teachings of the Apostles and substitute a potential survival message in its place.
You have nothing but the empty promises of men who give you a false hope of earning your salvation. And there is no joy or abundance in that.
You have nothing but the empty promises of people men……
That’s your interpretation Judaism has theirs, so do Muslims and everyone else. I’m not trying to change it or argue. JW publishes theirs. I concur with JW grasp and understanding of Scripture. I’ve presented to you support for JW position. That’s all an advocate can do. Telling me i’m misled inter alia doesn’t falsely what I’ve presented and it is immaterial.
—What do I know.
That's what he said about the destruction of the Temple of Jerusalem, because it was not a holy place of worship, but a den of corrupt robbers, and Matthew deliberately spoke to Jews with an anti-Jewish disposition. It was never a prophecy. Because historians believe that the original Gospel, the Gospel of Maga was recorded in 70 A. D. shortly after the destruction of the Jerusalem temple, and the Gospel of Matthew was recorded around 86 A. D. So the destruction of the temple in Jerusalem was written by the scribe after the temple was destroyed.
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Just ask to have it "Simonized."
Fisherman
Salvation and baptism have nothing to do with dates. Russell claimed that you couldn't be a dedicated Christian if you didn't believe in 1874. And 1874 was taught till about 1930. Then Rutherford changed the critical date so that now you will not qualify for baptism if you don't believe in 1914.
Can a person be saved and sanctified if they only had the Bible to go on and never heard of Russell or Rutherford and 1874 or 1914 or an organization with headquarters in Warwick New York?
"Can a person be saved and sanctified if they only had the Bible to go on and never heard of Russell or Rutherford and 1874 or 1914 or an organization with headquarters in Warwick New York?"
With one question, Vanderhoven7, you highlighted just how absurd the Watchtower's claims are.
Hi Ding
We know that 1874, 1914, 1919 have nothing you do with repentance and faith in Jesus Christ and therefore nothing to do with salvation and sanctification.
Witnesses put an organization's and it's interpretations between man and God and write these absurdities into the gospel formula and make them requirements for Christian baptism.
Wrong gospel, wrong Jesus
Vander
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