https://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/2024/06/16/Russia-tortures-Jehovahs-Witness/3971718239875/
Russia is amping up to severe torture for jws. I don't think this is appropriate behaviour for anyone.
JWs Tortured in Russia
by blondie 15 Replies latest jw friends
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Rivergang
Agreed.
You couldn’t call the perpetrators of those acts “animals’, as that would be an insult to animals!
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cofty
Putin is a despicable tyrant. Sadly JW's will revel in stories of persecution as if it somehow proves they are right about something.
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Riley
If a JW needed evidence we need to have a Military and we need to protect secular democracy , just look to the Russia/Ukraine conflict. Of course the Borg will never appreciate the sacrifice some people make so they are free to teach their nonsense.
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StephaneLaliberte
That's one thing I liked about the movie Silence (2016) with Andrew Garfield. It shows Christians being tortured in Japan. It is horrible what happened to them, and I hope that JWs watching a movie like that would realize that people's ability to remain steadfast, even under torture, doesn't make their belief truth.
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Balaamsass2
I hope the JWs in Russia are not being victimized like the JWs in Malawi in the 60s. Watchtower exposed them to extreme persecution for publicity, while they made easy outs for the larger number of JWs in Mexico for the same issue.
EX Governing Body Member Ray Franz covered the issue in his book "Crisis of Conscience".
Russian courts are opaque.
It seemed strange to me how many cases occurred during the Covid lockdown. Were Rusian JWs instructed differently than JWs in the West? Where were they expected to meet in person? Go door to door physically...while western JWs were given a pass? So many unanswered questions for me.
Of course, I will never get a straight answer from Watchtower. I feel for the Russian JWs...abused by a cult and abused by the state. :(
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blondie
Jehovah's witnesses are not the only ones being tortured. https://www2.cbn.com/news/world/russia-tortures-evangelical-christians-us-baptists-urge-house-speaker-johnson-take
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FragrantAddendum
so the wt jw's are willing to figuratively "execute" their own moms, kids, etc on the altar to the gb
the wt jw's cover up csa
the wt jw's claim to be loving while showing hate of the worst kind
the wt jw's are in bed with the un
they have been since russell's day, pre-league of nations
rutherford was in with league of nations dudes
isn't it obvious why russian jw's are getting "persecuted"?
(everything on jw dot org is like "opposite world" right?)
so "oh look russia's persecuting us!"
actually means - hey, wt is persecuting their own people.
wt leadership is totally sick, you guys
like, really, really, really bad
not even kidding
mark sanderson takes delight in torturing people
i know him enough to know that
those guys imitate satan, pretending to be "angels of light"
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ScenicViewer
Sadly, this kind of treatment is wrong, but it proves that a couple of things about the JW beliefs are misleading.
1) Romans 8:31 says "... if God is for us, who can be against us?" (NWT)
Watchtower has quoted this verse in the past when it suited them, for example when they won a lawsuit, implying that since they are 'Jehovah's' witnesses no one can be against them and they can't lose.
Yet they are banned in many countries and are being severely persecuted at times. Additionally they are not doing so well at winning law suits these days. Obviously God is not with them.
2) It also disproves their idea about 'the end of the Gentile Times' (meaning the end of 'the times of the nations') which they say happened in 1914 when God's Kingdom started ruling. Their persecution by Hitler and the Nazis in WWII, along with other persecutions including Russia, proves that the nations are still having their way - the Gentile Times have not ended at all and God's Kingdom is not ruling.
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FragrantAddendum
that "gentile times" crap was all make-believe
the wanna-be-in-charge pharisees with their maccabean want-to-be-kings-now that was inherited by all the religious leaders of christendom ever since
jesus never said anything about some long-term "gentile times"
he said it would be a short period of time after the devil was cast down
it's right in the verses after it..."a time, times and half a time"
3 1/2 years isn't long.
wt is getting cut down now bc jesus has taken the throne in heaven
he's making an accounting with all the religious frauds first
bc they've been very very naughty
the govts will eat up wt and all the other religious corporations