The corrosive nature of CRT

by LoveUniHateExams 25 Replies latest social current

  • LoveUniHateExams
    LoveUniHateExams

    There are 'academics' who broadly support CRT, obviously. Kahinde Andrews is one, he teaches Black Studies at the University of Birmingham.

  • LoveUniHateExams
    LoveUniHateExams

    @Diogenesister

    Yes, Whoopie Goldberg made a similar claim. She claimed that, because Nazis and Jews were both white, the Holocaust wasn't a racial issue.

    Again, the influence of CRT is dripping off her.

    Of course the Holocaust had a racial aspect. The Nazis called people of other races Untermensch. My German's fairly rusty but I would translate this word as 'sub-human'.

    The Hutus and Tutsis are both black but the Rwandan massacre of 1994 was also racist because it was done along ethnic lines.

  • slimboyfat
    slimboyfat

    As I recall Goldberg said something really stupid like ‘Jews can’t experience racism because they are white’. It’s hard to know how an adult person can have that view or what she thought the Holocaust was all about.

    On the other hand the observation that people with African ancestry are visually more easily identified in everyday life than Jews seems like a perfectly reasonable comment to me.

  • LoveUniHateExams
    LoveUniHateExams

    the observation that people with African ancestry are visually more easily identified in everyday life than Jews seems like a perfectly reasonable comment to me - well, it depends what kind of Jews we're talking about. Hasidic Jews are just as visible as African-Americans.

    But, yes, Jews often look like Europeans, and often even have partial European ancestry and so 'blend in' better than others.

    But, again, it's when she said that 'Jews can't experience racism, only prejudice like red-heads' is when the insanity kicks in.

    Hitler killed millions of Jews because he believed them to be racially inferior - fact.

    Here's a thought experiment: imagine that you are Jewish, and live in a Jewish enclave of Manchester or London. The Jewish cemetery has been wrecked by vandals - some head stones have been smashed and a swastika has been daubed on one of them. The local synagogue has to have bars on the windows and security. Maybe one or two of your relatives were killed in the holocaust. Corbyn was kicked out of Labour for saying the anti-Semitism issue was blown way out of proportion. And now Diane Abbot lets slip what she thinks about Jews and racism.

    How would you feel?


  • punkofnice
    punkofnice

    To me, at least, it evidences we are well along in the 'Long March through the Institutions'. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_march_through_the_institutions

    CRT is at least a grift for race baiters. At worst a mind worm placed into our institution by hostile powers or 5th columnists.

    We're being groomed either way.

  • Phizzy
    Phizzy

    "There are 'academics' who broadly support CRT" I know that, but that does not answer what I asked for, support for your contention that a serious Academic supporter of CRT has said the following, as you contend :" According to CRT, Jews can't experience racism cos dey white".

  • slimboyfat
    slimboyfat

    Phizzy they might prove as elusive as those “Marxist postmodernists” (a contradiction in terms) that Jordan Peterson and others seem fixated on.

    https://youtu.be/oDOSOQLLO-U

  • cofty
    cofty
    CRT of itself is not a bad thing of course,

    CRT is a poisonous lie.

    It treats people as members of groups or categories in opposition to other groups. Investigate its origins in Legal studies with Derek Bell and Kimberly Krenshaw et all.

    Its destructive effect on society is deliberate, part of the 'long March through the institutions' planned by Antonio Gramsci and put into practice by Herbert Marcusi.

    Those who promote CRT have little or no concern for racial inequity. Their objective is to take a short cut to power.

    BLM were a recent example of CRT in action. Corrupt, violent, chaotic Marxists who pretended to idolise a dead criminal for reasons of personal profit.

    CRT should be unapologetically opposed without compromise.

  • slimboyfat
    slimboyfat

    Many of those who malign Antonio Gramsci have never read any Gramsci but are following a popularised and inaccurate caricature offered by a few conservative authors who use bits and pieces from here and there. If you have only heard about Gramsci from those who use him as a kind of villain it’s no basis. It would be like learning about Darwin’s theory of natural selection from the blue Creation book. You only have the vaguest idea what it’s actually about and much is crucially distorted. I have read some the prison notebooks and it’s plainly not for nothing that Gramsci is held as an important thinker. In terms of Marxism where he fits in is that he showed that cultural superstructure impacts the material base, which some Marxists disputed. Whether you agree with programmatic Marxism or not, he made a good case for how the world actually works, which is useful to know whichever political perspective you have.

  • LoveUniHateExams
    LoveUniHateExams

    @Phizzy

    I don't know what point you're trying to prove but I just don't have the stomach to trawl through the statements of academics who support CRT, of whom there are many.

    Suffice to say that the following claims have CRT as their basis:

    White people can't be victims of racism because racism = racism plus power.

    Jews can't experience racism.

    White privilege is a tangible, important factor of daily life.

    BTW one academic who supports CRT, Kahinde Andrews, believes that the British Empire was worse than the Nazis because the British Empire killed more people. This isn't intellectually honest. If I wanted to compare the two honestly, here's what I'd do:

    1. Work out how many years the British Empire lasted.

    2. Work out how many people it killed.

    3. Work out the kill rate, i.e. how many people killed per year.

    4. Do the same for Nazi Germany.

    5. Make an honest comparison between the two.

    I'm fairly sure the Nazis killed more people per year than the British Empire.

    Of course, all the above is leaving out the good things the Empire brought non-British people - our rule of law, technology, science, literature, etc.

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