No Evidence Against Iraq, You Say?

by DakotaRed 49 Replies latest jw friends

  • dubla
    dubla

    realist-

    these statements couldve also led me to believe you were maintaining that saddam didnt have any wmd (again, bold mine):

    saddam has NO WMD ...unless you count empty warheads as such.

    dubla,

    do i believe he has weapons of MD...No i don't think he has them.

    those are from the "okay saddam lovers...." thread, and the first was from the "france is a pain...." thread, in case youd like to check them.

    aa

  • Realist
    Realist

    dubla,

    i can see why you got confused

    saddam has NO WMD ...unless you count empty warheads as such. In addition even if he has chemical or bioweapons is he no threat to anyone as long as he is not attacked and the use of these weapons is his last resort.

    dubla, do i believe he has weapons of MD...No i don't think he has them.
    does it matter if i am wrong and he has some chem or bio weapons...No because there is no point in using them. 
    whom would he attack with these weapons??? the US, Israel? NONSENSE! 
     
    i thought that from the entire quotes it is obvious what i think but i guess i have to be more careful about wording in the future 
    to make it clear...i do not believe saddam has WMD. do i think that it is impossible that he has a little left ...NO. 
    do i think that it is threat or a reason to go to war if he has a little anthrax hidden under his pillow...NO. 
    it is a matter of probability...and for me the chance that he is stupid enough to has something left is pretty small.
  • dubla
    dubla

    realist-

    no, reading the quotes in their entirety doesnt shed any more light on your views. youve maintained all along that saddam has no wmd, but youve always left yourself that "out" in case you are wrong, with statements such as "even if he has...", and "does it matter if im wrong...".......in fact i called you on these sort of win-win statements when they first occurred. id imagine that most of the "antiwar" crowd will probably voice some of these same views when the wmd are uncovered.....like "it doesnt matter, and still wasnt a reason for war", or, "the u.s. planted them, its all lies and propaganda", etc. just my prediction, but maybe some of you will come forth and freely admit that the u.s. knew what he had all along, and wasnt simply lying to us about the wmd.....i kinda doubt it, but maybe.

    aa

  • William Penwell
    William Penwell

    My theory on the WMD issue is that if Saddam still had any either he has got rid of them and will make the US and Britian look stupid or he doesn't give a crap and will use them on the US and Britian troops in the battle of Baghdad. Either way the US and Britian could be screwed.

    Will

  • Azalo
    Azalo

    thats it, i'm convinced. how could i have been so naive?

  • dubla
    dubla
    My theory on the WMD issue is that if Saddam still had any either he has got rid of them and will make the US and Britian look stupid or he doesn't give a crap and will use them on the US and Britian troops in the battle of Baghdad. Either way the US and Britian could be screwed.

    i think theres a good chance he will use them....but i also think theres another possibility that youre overlooking, that being: saddam still believes he can somehow stay in power, and will refrain from using them in hopes of maintaining the views of some that the u.s. and co. are completely wrong about his wmd stash. of course, havent you also implied that if we do find them, they will simply be planted by our troops?

    aa

  • dubla
    dubla

    azalo-

    how could i have been so naive?

    dont feel bad....many others have fallen for saddams lies as well, it happens.

    aa

  • Realist
    Realist

    dubla,

    i can only state what is probable in my opinion and which theory best fits the facts. i never claimed to be infallible.

    i stand by what i said...i do not think saddam has any WMDs.

    if he has some left and uses them than i was wrong regarding this issue period. this would not mean however that he was a threat to the world and in particular the US. neither would it mean that the current war is justified imo.

    since the US would indeed look terrible if there are no WMD found it is absolutely possible that they would plant some fake evidence. it would not be the first time the US does this.

  • dubla
    dubla

    lets all hope and pray that the regime doesnt use chemical weapons on coalition forces as a last resort.

    Rodgers said that the squadron passed a number of burned-out Iraqi vehicles, including outdated, Soviet-era Iraqi tanks and armed pickup trucks and that the bodies of dead Iraqi soldiers dotted the landscape.

    "What we noticed was all the dead Iraqi soldiers had gas masks, as if they are indeed preparing for chemical attack," Rodgers said.

    http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/04/03/sprj.irq.war.main/index.html

    aa

  • Trauma_Hound
    Trauma_Hound
    What we noticed was all the dead Iraqi soldiers had gas masks

    That means absolutely nothing, and is not a smoking gun. Our troops have gas masks also. They can be used for other things like CS gas.

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