UK congregations transferred more than £4 million during 2015-17 to Watchtower HQ

by truthseeker 25 Replies latest jw friends

  • Slidin Fast
    Slidin Fast

    Bloody Hell! Where is this coming from? I assume this is from the CC records, how did you find this detail? I any case, amazing information.

  • St George of England
    St George of England

    Hastings congregation - £674,000 bequeathed. Mind boggling amounts, just think what good that money could have been used for.

    George

  • stan livedeath
    stan livedeath

    yep--lots of nice new kingdom shacks in africa.

  • truthseeker
    truthseeker

    Sliding Fast, all the info came from the CC but in the form of downloadable pdf documents where additional information was required.

  • Slidin Fast
    Slidin Fast

    Excellent work ts, imagine if we could get similar info from the US.

  • slimboyfat
    slimboyfat

    Have you got a list of the 108 congregations in Scotland? I would really appreciate this!

    By the way there is an Assembly Hall in Scotland in Livingston.

    https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/4762583112351744/scotland-livingston-kingdom-hall

    When you consider Chelmsford was estimated to cost well over £100 million, a few million gathered from congregation funds is not a lot.

    Selling KHs on the other hand might gather some serious money. If they have around 1000 KHs in the UK, worth on average £200,000 or so (to take into account cheap rural locations as well as London property) that's £200 million. But they can't sell all KHs, or most of them, without actually liquidating the religion. Can they?

  • truthseeker
    truthseeker

    Hey Slim,

    i will post the document shortly, just entering the last bit of data.

    It will prob be in a separate thread.

    Thanks for the info on the Assembly Hall in Scotland, I didn't know about this!

    Truthseeker

  • daveysmithy30
    daveysmithy30

    Hi slimboyfat!

    Here is a link listing 106 congregations in Scotland courtesy of the OSCR - Scottish Charity Regulator:

    https://www.oscr.org.uk/charities/search-scottish-charity-register?keyword=Jehovah%27s%20Witnesses&charitytype=0&page=1&perpage=20&orderby=relevance&orderdir=asc&stype=reg

    Hope this helps!

    Davey

  • freddo
    freddo

    Truthseeker - here is some factual/anecdotal stuff about KEYNSHAM congregation.

    FACTUAL

    If forum members click on your link and then look at the detailed accounts for year ending 2015 they will see that a sister - one Christine Woodland - left the Congregation £139,000 in her will.

    ANECDOTAL surmisation by Freddo

    Soon (Charity Commission "soon" - not Watchtower false promise "soon" - I bet that there will be a similar sized hole on the other side of their accounts showing a six figure sum gone elsewhere. I wonder where? No prizes for guessing.

    ANECDOTAL knowledge about KEYNSHAM

    One of the elders hinted to me that they were having a bit of a battle with the CO/Bethel London about this legacy. Trustees felt it was left for the benefit of the congregation and wanted to ring fence at least some of it (note the needy fund in the CC accounts) and I know at least one elder was vocal in circuit elders fiance meetings about the persistent "deficit" at assemblies.

    However as in all congregations there are plenty of elders who just go with the CO or Bethel "suggestions" like the pathetic cowards they can be (and I used to be). So I am sure that six figure sum will have gone to Bethel London already and will check their accounts later in the year as they HAVE to post them under CC rules.

  • freddo
    freddo

    Puzzling re: KEYNSHAM

    Charity Commission rules (I believe) only say accounts have to be submitted and made public if INCOME exceeds £25,000 (used to be £10,000) in any one year. Which in the year ended 2015 KEYNSHAM they have shown their accounts.

    The year ended 2016 shows no such commensurate expenditure so it must be sat in their account. If not then I wonder if some "clever accounting" is going on?

    If it gets sent to WT Britain or IBSA or some other jw managed account then surely a large sum will be shown in their expenditure column. They have previously filed in January so are due to file soon.

    Watch this space.

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