It must be a concern of all the information that is now been leaked

by joe134cd 37 Replies latest jw experiences

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  DJS

  OneEyedJoe's comments about Apple ring true. I've done a lot of work related to the semi-conductor industry. They typically have the highest level of security in the for profit industries. And interestingly, most of the security is not designed to mitigate external threats; it is designed to mitigate internal threats and the loss of intellectual capital, etc. from walking, emailing, texting, faxing, etc. out the door.

  This makes sense for these industries, as the trade secrets, etc. are their profit centers. You won't find this level of internal operational and physical security at many for profit places, and those with higher levels of security are almost always mitigating external threats. I could bore you with all of the internal process changes that the Dark Lords would need to implement to mitigate leaks, but suffice it to say that they would be enormous.
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  OneEyedJoe

  There are probably dozens if not hundreds at Bethel who were aware of the change by the time the leak happened so it doesn't have to be someone of high status who leaked the information.
  

  While I'm sure you're correct that many at bethel would've known, is it true that this letter could've come from any one of them? The leak wasn't that the TMS was going away or that the magazines were getting downsized again, it was the entire letter, verbatim. I wouldn't think that everyone at bethel that's aware of the changes would have access to the letter necessarily. That said I'm privileged to have never worked at bethel so I could be completely wrong on this.

  My theory is that the leak came from someone in the IT department. They've probably got folks in IT that haven't been in very long, and a background in computers is probably something that primes people for waking up (more likely to explore doubts anonymously online). It would make sense that they'd want to get the letter ready to post ahead of time (especially if it's been translated and is going to link to a video, etc) and this would be a much more likely (to me) candidate for the source of the leak than someone on the service committee or something like that. Another possibility is that it could've come from someone in translation, as they sometimes take people that haven't been in the cult long due to their qualifications, from what I understand.

  I would consider a good 'leak' to be something that can potentially be damaging to them. Just leaking information ahead of the official scheduled release date or 'elders only' leaks can help 'if' they expose them for something illegal, unethical, or not biblical. Otherwise it's just getting information ahead of time.
  

  IMO every leak is a valuable leak. Just proving time and again that their own elders and bethelites aren't as devoted as they'd like everyone to think is worth something in and of itself. Even if that only means that we get information a little early.
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  OneEyedJoe

  If we didn't have people up the chain leaking info, we would still hear about the announcement and still be able to suggest afterward to our Dub families that the reason is not for the sake of the "preaching" so close to the end but for dire financial reasons of a different sort.
  

  I don't think that'd be nearly as effective, though. If we got the information only after the JWs, they'd already be working through all the excuses for why they've cut magazine production, etc and they'd have a defense built up by the time you mention it. If you mention it in advance, their default defense is "That'll never happen! Jehovah would never allow that!" and then when it happens they don't have that same level of defense built up. It also becomes more personal because the cult just made a liar out of them.
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  Vidiot

  OnTheWayOut - "I find it strange that some are so high up the chain and stay there knowing what they know of TTATT. I guess some feel they have little choice... If we didn't have people up the chain leaking info, we would still hear about the announcement and still be able to suggest afterward to our Dub families that the reason is not for the sake of the 'preaching' so close to the end but for dire financial reasons of a different sort.."

  Yup

  The ability to "predict" what's going to happen in advance (due to leaks) definitely has value and advantages.
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  Beth Sarim

  It must be very disconcerting to have only a so-called ''elite'' discuss thing at the very top only to have moments later discussed by everyone on websites. I'm sure only a handful of people know about the letter before anyone like CO's or Zone Overseers know.

  Like someone said earlier, they could make some phony ''leaked'' letters in kind of a ruse in attempt to narrow down who may be leaking things. Doubt that would work though, it would just create more paranoia, or create confusion.
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  sir82

  To have confidential information leaked only moments after its release must be of concern.

  If it were only "moments" it would be of no consequence. This was leaked nearly 2 weeks in advance!

  My theory is that the leak came from someone in the IT department.

  I don't think so. Remember the great lengths they went to in a BOE letter, trying to suppress who would actually have access to it? They are paranoid and fanatical about keeping things "confidential" until the last possible moment.

  No, I'm pretty sure someone high up with an axe to grind did it. The interesting question is, how high up?
  
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  Truthexplorer

  Heres a crazy theory. Wouldnt it be something if there was a mole within the GB!!!
  
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  Tornintwo

  I dont think there can be that many people who had access to the actual letter, because they are already aware of the possibility of leaks and want to prevent those if possible, so it would be on a 'need to know' basis surely (ha ha yes i know its not the CIA). The atmosphere amongst those few that did know cannot be great right now, surely there will be a witch hunt going on.