The U.S. already has the RIGHT to wage war on IRAQ

by starScream 38 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • email
    email
    And to all others, I'm not sure, but I think that Newsense fellow may have been being sarcastic about the Macheteros comment as in his post before that he seems to be very much against war and death and very emotional over the thought of people dying. Not really the attitude of a terrorist.

    No amac... the other things he said in spanish that were deleted were pertty clear... even if he's not a terrorist himself the fact that he's a supporter of terrorists makes me ill...

  • dubla
    dubla
    Hell, we might as well attach the French.......

    hmmmm.....maybe food for thought actually.

    aa

  • Simon
    Simon

    Actually, I think invading France is a fair and reasonable thing to do. We're still bitter about agincourt (sp) and stuff

  • pr_capone
    pr_capone

    Whats the fun in attacking France though? You know they will surrender the second we hit land!

    "Going to war without France is like going deer hunting without your accordion." --Norman Schwartzkopf

    "As far as I'm concerned, war always means failure" ---Jacques Chirac, President of France

    "The only time France wants us to go to war is when the German Army is sitting in Paris sipping coffee." --- Regis Philbin

    "You know why the French don't want to bomb Saddam Hussein? Because he hates America, he loves mistresses and wears a beret. He is French, people." --Conan O'Brien

    "I don't know why people are surprised that France won't help us get Saddam out of Iraq. After all, France wouldn't help us get the Germans out of France!" ---Jay Leno

    "The last time the French asked for 'more proof' it came marching into Paris under a German flag." --David Letterman

    And last but not least..... Next time there's a war in Europe, the loser has to keep France.

    Apologies to my French bretheren. All in good fun.

    Kansas District Overbeer

  • LB
    LB

    France? Is that the nation that makes love with their faces???

  • mustang
    mustang

    So, Germany gets invaded and you ignore it???

    REFERENCE: http://www.gospelcom.net/apologeticsindex/news1/an011212-15.html

    It took 9-11 to wake you out of a Neville Chamberlain slumber?

    Mustang

  • starScream
    starScream

    pr_capone,

    LOLOLOOLOLLOLOLOOLLMAO. Those were some great posts. I really wish Germany would go crazy again and just take France out of our hands. You are right. I would let them keep that smelly country this time.

    Brigadoon,

    During WW2 the German Military had incredible power. They had all but conquered europe in a few months. Japan without warning bombed the crap out of Pearl Harbor and then Germany declared war on us as well. Germany got bombed during WW2? I apoligize for not acting like the French surrender monkeys. The responsibility for the bombing of Germany lied in the hands of all the Wehrmacht, SS, Nazi party leaders and every idiot German that was in favor of Lebens Raum, Not the allied powers.

    Over 500,000 brave Americans gave their lives in world war 2 for France, Britain, Italy...... Not exactly the

    In every other war since, Americans have gone abroad to wreak destruction.

    you speak of new sense.

    Brigadoon,

    Your country has either completely forgot its crimes of the twentieth century or is ungreatful for the fogiveness it has been given.

    Maybe they are using their damned nuke bombs then against the whole world; but thats destiny;-( Its just armageddon then. Doesn`t matter;-)

    Did you eat a lot of paint chips as a kid?

    Realist,

    the US has broken the rules it forces upon others. this war is a criminal attack on a sovereign country. no law justifies this action.

    You have obviously ignored my post. We had an agreement with the Iraqi government. If they did not want the agreement they should not have made it. We are about to stop a potential Hitler, who was the leader of a country that was bound to the treaty of Versailles. This potential Hitler agreed to a cease-fire under conditions. We have the right to enforce that agreement, he broke it not us.

    the US was NOT authorized by the UN to occupy iraq!!! so you are talking BS.

    When war is authorized, the overthrow of that country's criminal government is authorized. Occupation is not the objective. Regime change and disarmament are the objective. If the new government wants the support of the US it can allow a US presence. We don't need to get UN approval for something that a Sovereign government allows within its borders.

    you morons do not realize that bush is not attacking iraq to help the average american but to allow a couple of filthy rich bastards to get just a little more influencial.

    That's a moronic and arbitrary accusation. What you don't realize is Iraq has been attacking British and American aircraft for over 10 years in violation of the cease fire agreement.

    Brigadoon,

    Now you are just being ridiculous.

    Why didn`t the US-troups free the Jews from the concentration camps, though they had the means to do it?

    First of all reconnaissance technology in those days had minimal range. We had no idea what was happening to the Jews until we, yes, went in AND LIBERATED THEM. What the hell is your argument. You are saying we didn't do what we did? Hello? THE GERMAN SS, THATS RIGHT YOU GUYS WERE THE ONES MURDERING THE JEWS YOU POS. OUR PEOPLE DIED TO SAVE THEM. YOU ARE INSANE

    No, they were too coward to go in with paratrooper... Instead of this, they bombed the civilian people and the cities down to 95% destruction...

    Coward!!??!?!?!?! Wait was that my grandfather that STORMED THE BEACHES OF NORMANDY? Or was that some other country that did that? No that was US. The cowards. So according to you storming into the most insane battle ever is cowardly and murderring defenseless jews is brave. You are just the most, oh my god i cant believe how dumb you are.

    OMG. The concenetration camps were out of our range from the air you stupid individual. Some were all the way out in the UKRAINE. HELLO? THAT IS RUSSIA's territory. We had the western front. GET A MAP SOMETIME. Then you can learn about the range of fighter escort craft in WW2.

    Amac,

    StarScream -

    I think you may be talking out of your bottom. The end of the Gulf War had nothing to do with an "act of mercy" cease fire.

    It did not come from my bottom. The cease fire agreement exists. It is a real document. The people that wrote and proposed it, ie Powell and Bush, said they wanted to end the war because we were slaughtering the Iraqi Army too easily. Other Generals like Schwartzkopf were PISSED AS F*** about it. HE WAS SO PISSED OFF. They didn't care about showing mercy to a bunch of SS muderers, they wanted to get the republican guard and Saddam. We agreed to let them off the hook if they agreed to certain conditions of the cease fire. They have broken their promise and they have to face the consequences.

    Sorry, but there was no pause button on that war

    Yes there was. Iraq agreed to the button and then started shooting again once the smoke cleared.

    The US was supposed to get Iraq out of Kuwait, NOT OCCUPY IRAQ.

    We have been occupying Iraqi airspace the entire decade. We did not initially have UN authorization for this but the Iraqis agreed to it so we would let them off the hook. In addition. When Iraq was out of Kuwait we pursued them into Iraq and killed them. It was our Job to not only kick them out but to crush the threat. We agreed to let the threat disarm itself peacefully out of mercy. It has defied this and until the cease-fire agreement we have the right to pick up where we left off. If the Iraqis don't like that then they should have kept fighting back then and said, "No we reject the conditions of your agreement." had they done that we would have simply done what we are doing now. They made a promise though and then they broke it. That does not work. If it does then we can't Make cease-fire agreements in the future. That would be unfair to the people that do want cease-fire agreements.

    The only way that war could be continued is if Iraq occupied Kuwait again.

    That is just wrong. If Iraq violates international law then it can be dealt with. If Iraq violates the conditions of the cease-fire agreement it can be dealt with.

    Simon,

    I have been looking for the quote but it was something along the lines as,**If this war is allowed because of some agreement then no war ever ends...**

    WW1 did not end. It became WW2 because no one wanted to enforce the treaty of Versailles and we ended up with an even bigger war than the pre-emtive war that should have been fought, which was legal under the treaty. We could have prevented WW2 with minimal casualties compared to the 50 million people that died because we let the threat get out of control.

    We are in the same situation as the rising third reich that was under the treaty of versailles. We have a treaty from Iraq and multiple UN mandates. It is not an illegal war.

    It took 9-11 to wake you out of a Neville Chamberlain slumber?

    The jews have a saying. It goes like this. "Never again." The US has learned from the mistakes of complacency to Hitler and the Wehrmacht. We are acting on the treaties that we make. .

    **************************************************

    DON'T MAKE A TREATY WITH THE U.S. AND EXPECT THAT IT CAN BE BROKEN. We are not the league of nations and our cease-fire agreement will not be treated like the treaty of versailles.

  • email
    email

    Aren't you contradicting yourself brigadoon?

    first you say:

    I am no enemy of americans

    THANK GOD... because then you went on to say:

    Therefore, it is my opinion that the whole civilized mankind should rise measures against the USA .
    The USA should completely get isolated from the rest of the world.
    Economically, politically and culturally.
    No ware, no goods, no single merchandise-article from the USA should be bought anymore.
    No Coke, no MS-software, no computer, no medicine, no car, no oil, no airplane.
    Simple nothing.
    The "$-dollar" as payment should become outlaw.
    No foreign company should have any further connection to a US-firm.
    Wallstreet should be forbidden for the rest of the world.
    All counties of the world should conclude an entry-prohibition for US- citzen.
    A high reward for grasping all American politicians, that have supported this war, should be concluded.

    You are crack me up!!! LMAO

    You also said:

    This war against the Iraq is not justified, because the USA were not attacked.

    and that is right... The USA was NOT attacked by Iraq but by terrorists... In what country do terrorist live?... They live EVERYWHERE in every country around the world... Can we then go after every country that have terrorists? Of course not... that is ridiculous...so what do we do? We go after regimes that harbor, train, finance and PAY these murders' families monies to commit these crimes...AND on top of it they are building weapons of mass destruction... Weapons that Saddam admit to "have had" but can't show ANY evidence that they were destroyed and/or disposed off... oh... did I forgot to mention that he has killed some of his OWN people with chemical weapons?...

  • pr_capone
    pr_capone
    No, I am really a friend of 50% of the american people.

    Mang... with friends like him, who needs enemies?

    Kansas District Overbeer

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