If You Criticize A Person of Color Are You A Racist? (page 14)

Xanthippe

If you criticize a person of colour are you a racist?

Maybe, maybe not. It depends on the circumstances - obviously. I'm ready for the nect deliberately inflammatory question.

silentbuddha

Whatever happened to using the word prejudice?

LoveUniHateExams

This person of colour is Salih Khater.

Khater is an immigrant from Sudan who was granted asylum by the UK authorities.

He has recently been found guilty of attempted murder because he deliberately drove his car at Police and pedestrians. He's been given a custodial sentence.

Am I racist if I criticise this guy?

Am I racist if I say Khater should 'go back to where he came from'?

OnTheWayOut

14 pages, wow- this is a charged subject.
Okay, I just red Minimus' original post and haven't read the 14 pages. Let me say my piece and then when I can, I will compare notes.

A man can criticize a woman without being accused of being sexist, or a straight man can criticize a gay man without being accused of hating homosexuals, etc. etc.

.....but you really have to have a fair reputation with the group or individuals involved before you do that. If that group is co-workers or family that knows you, you may well be established as a non-hater or even a supporter of that particular issue, but are critical of something that has nothing to do with that issue.

If you are having an argument on the internet or with strangers or in front of a news camera- FORGET IT!!!! You will be accused.

ThomasCovenant

''Khater is an immigrant from Sudan who was granted asylum by the UK authorities.

He has recently been found guilty of attempted murder because he deliberately drove his car at Police and pedestrians. He's been given a custodial sentence.

Am I racist if I criticise this guy?

Am I racist if I say Khater should 'go back to where he came from'?''

Well I'd guess if you were criticising him for being 'of colour' then I'd veer towards a Yes.

If you were criticising him because of his actions then I'd veer towards a No.

If you were saying he should 'go back to where he came from' because you have an aversion to people of colour who were born in Africa then I'd veer towards a Yes.

If you were saying he should 'go back to where he came from' because you think it is simply better to send all criminals back to their country of origin whether it be Ireland, France, Japan etc, with reciprocal arrangements with other countries to return all criminals back to their country of birth as a matter of state policy, then I'd veer towards a No.

Theonlyoneleft

Being mixed race myself this is not a subject that I pay attention too much in my life anymore.

When I was younger yes... segregation was the worse. Today I’m lucky to live in a multicultural society that is normal to see different people weather is race or sexual orientation.

So in retrospect I measure my words if needs be, I know I’m not racist and if I offend anyone without knowing I apologise taking note for the next time.

*Are we being critical towards a person because one of their faults or do we have mixed feelings about their race towards the individual?

Maybe this is the question to ask ourselves.

breakfast of champions

On the subject of “the squad”: Honestly, the president Tweeting "why don't they go back" and fix their shithole countries is about as stupid and inarticulate as a bunch of celebrities claiming that they're so upset with the outcome of the election that they’re going to ‘leave the country’ and go live in Europe or Canada for 4 years.

Whether it's the celebs or the prez (and remember the prez is both!) it's all a bunch of petty self-aggrandizing nonsense. Do any of these words from any of these people accomplish anything? NOPE!

peacefulpete

Attacking people who call for change in policy and programs because its "unAmerican" is disingenuous. Trump supporters were all about discontent with the present American policy. Wasn't the whole thing about "making America Great Again" ? Populist rhetoric aside, this was certainly a promise for change in American policy and social structure, returning to a supposedly more ideal time.

Demanding people who have a different approach to social issues and policy should be silent, that is very UnAmerican.

LoveUniHateExams

If you were saying he should 'go back to where he came from' because you think it is simply better to send all criminals back to their country of origin - the guy deliberately tried to run people over in the street.

Can I just say 'go back to where you came from'? Do I have to explain my statement?

What if someone else called me racist for telling him to go back to where he came from? They won't believe me when I tried to explain that I don't hate his skin colour, I hate his actions. What then?

... because that's the situation we find ourselves in today, in 2019. That's why Min started this OP.

peacefulpete

If anyone is still involved with this topic, here's an article that surprised me. https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2018/10/large-majorities-dislike-political-correctness/572581/ Huge percentages of Americans feel the PC movement has become "a problem". We have all felt a bit of discomfort, worrying of being misunderstood but why such large numbers expressing dislike for the movement?

The finding is complicated by the lack of definition of PC. Are we primarily talking about race, nationality or sexuality? As cultures that tends to be conservative on such matters, do Blacks and Hispanics primarily feel discomfort when talking about gays while European decent whites worry more about PC racial issues? I would suspect so but that is assumed based upon the prevalence of homophobia in the respective ethocultures. The 40% of Blacks polled feeling strong anti-immigration sentiment surprised me again. Why? was this racially motivated? was it broad acceptance of anti-Mexican worker sentiment or something else?

Anyway it was interesting and like most social issues, complicated.

If You Criticize A Person of Color Are You A Racist?

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