Iraq's Tortured Children

by ThiChi 73 Replies latest social current

  • Simon
    Simon

    ThiChi

    Using as 'evidence' a US website is hardly impressive - what else are they going to say other than everything they do is wonderful and everything the enemy does is evil? Your list of myths and facts are very biased & one sided IMHO

    I posted this previously, the full article is worth a read:

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/weekend/story/0,3605,232986,00.html

    Squeezed to Death

    "Our own studies indicate that more than 40 per cent of the population in this area will get cancer: in five years' time to begin with, then long afterwards. Most of my own family now have cancer, and we have no history of the disease. It has spread to the medical staff of this hospital. We don't know the precise source of the contamination, because we are not allowed to get the equipment to conduct a proper scientific survey, or even to test the excess level of radiation in our bodies. We suspect depleted uranium, which was used by the Americans and British in the Gulf War right across the southern battlefields."

    Under economic sanctions imposed by the United Nations Security Council almost 10 years ago, Iraq is denied equipment and expertise to clean up its contaminated battle-fields, as Kuwait was cleaned up. At the same time, the Sanctions Committee in New York, dominated by the Americans and British, has blocked or delayed a range of vital equipment, chemotherapy drugs and even pain-killers. "For us doctors," said Dr Al-Ali, "it is like torture. We see children die from the kind of cancers from which, given the right treatment, there is a good recovery rate." Three children died while I was there.

    According to Unicef, the United Nations Children's Fund, the death rate of children under five is more than 4,000 a month - that is 4,000 more than would have died before sanctions. That is half a million children dead in eight years. If this statistic is difficult to grasp, consider, on the day you read this, up to 200 Iraqi children may die needlessly. "Even if not all the suffering in Iraq can be imputed to external factors," says Unicef, "the Iraqi people would not be undergoing such deprivation in the absence of the prolonged measures imposed by the Security Council and the effects of war."

    "The change in 10 years is unparalleled, in my experience," Anupama Rao Singh, Unicef's senior representative in Iraq, told me. "In 1989, the literacy rate was 95%; and 93% of the population had free access to modern health facilities. Parents were fined for failing to send their children to school. The phenomenon of street children or children begging was unheard of. Iraq had reached a stage where the basic indicators we use to measure the overall well-being of human beings, including children, were some of the best in the world. Now it is among the bottom 20%. In 10 years, child mortality has gone from one of the lowest in the world, to the highest."

    A courtly, eloquent Irishman, Denis Halliday resigned as co-ordinator of humanitarian relief to Iraq in 1998, after 34 years with the UN; he was then Assistant Secretary-General of the United Nations, one of the elite of senior officials. He had made his career in development, "attempting to help people, not harm them". His was the first public expression of an unprecedented rebellion within the UN bureaucracy. "I am resigning," he wrote, "because the policy of economic sanctions is totally bankrupt. We are in the process of destroying an entire society. It is as simple and terrifying as that . . . Five thousand children are dying every month . . . I don't want to administer a programme that results in figures like these."

    "Requested radiotherapy equipment, chemotherapy drugs and analgesics are consistently blocked by United States and British advisers [to the Sanctions Committee in New York]. There seems to be a rather ludicrous notion that such agents could be converted into chemical or other weapons."

    The irony is that the US helped bring Saddam Hussein's Ba'ath Party to power in Iraq, and that the US (and Britain) in the 1980s conspired to break their own laws in order, in the words of a Congressional inquiry, to "secretly court Saddam Hussein with reckless abandon", giving him almost everything he wanted, including the means of making biological weapons. Rubin failed to see the irony in the US supplying Saddam with seed stock for anthrax and botulism, that he could use in weapons, and claimed that the Maryland company responsible was prosecuted. It was not: the company was given Commerce Department approval.

    Denial is easy, for Iraqis are a nation of unpeople in the West, their panoramic suffering of minimal media interest; and when they are news, care is always taken to minimise Western culpability. I can think of no other human rights issue about which the governments have been allowed to sustain such deception and tell so many bare-faced lies. Western governments have had a gift in the "butcher of Baghdad", who can be safely blamed for everything. Unlike the be-headers of Saudi Arabia, the torturers of Turkey and the prince of mass murderers, Suharto, only Saddam Hussein is so loathsome that his captive population can be punished for his crimes. British obsequiousness to Washington's designs over Iraq has a certain craven quality, as the Blair government pursues what Simon Jenkins calls a "low-cost, low-risk machismo, doing something relatively easy, but obscenely cruel". The statements of Tony Blair and Robin Cook and assorted sidekick ministers would, in other circumstances, be laughable. Cook: "We must nail the absurd claim that sanctions are responsible for the suffering of the Iraqi people", Cook: "We must uphold the sanctity of international law and the United Nations . . ." ad nauseam. The British boast about their "initiative" in promoting the latest Security Council resolution, which merely offers the prospect of more Kafkaesque semantics and prevarication in the guise of a "solution" and changes nothing.

    What are sanctions for? Eradicating Iraq's weapons of mass destruction, says the Security Council resolution. Scott Ritter, a chief UN weapons inspector in Iraq for five years, told me: "By 1998, the chemical weapons infrastructure had been completely dismantled or destroyed by UNSCOM (the UN inspections body) or by Iraq in compliance with our mandate. The biological weapons programme was gone, all the major facilities eliminated. The nuclear weapons programme was completely eliminated. The long range ballistic missile programme was completely eliminated. If I had to quantify Iraq's threat, I would say [it is] zero." Ritter resigned in protest at US interference; he and his American colleagues were expelled when American spy equipment was found by the Iraqis. To counter the risk of Iraq reconstituting its arsenal, he says the weapons inspectors should go back to Iraq after the immediate lifting of all non-military sanctions; the inspectors of the international Atomic Energy Agency are already back. At the very least, the two issues of sanctions and weapons inspection should be entirely separate. Madeleine Albright has said: "We do not agree that if Iraq complies with its obligations concerning weapons of mass destruction, sanctions should be lifted." If this means that Saddam Hussein is the target, then the embargo will go on indefinitely, holding Iraqis hostage to their tyrant's compliance with his own demise. Or is there another agenda? In January 1991, the Americans had an opportunity to press on to Baghdad and remove Saddam, but pointedly stopped short. A few weeks later, they not only failed to support the Kurdish and Shi'a uprising, which President Bush had called for, but even prevented the rebelling troops in the south from reaching captured arms depots and allowed Saddam Hussein's helicopters to slaughter them while US aircraft circled overhead. At they same time, Washington refused to support Iraqi opposition groups and Kurdish claims for independence.

    "Containing" Iraq with sanctions destroys Iraq's capacity to threaten US control of the Middle East's oil while allowing Saddam to maintain internal order. As long as he stays within present limits, he is allowed to rule over a crippled nation. "What the West would ideally like," says Said Aburish, the author, "is another Saddam Hussein." Sanctions also justify the huge US military presence in the Gulf, as Nato expands east, viewing a vast new oil protectorate stretching from Turkey to the Caucasus. Bombing and sanctions are ideal for policing this new order: a strategy the president of the American Physicians for Human Rights calls "Bomb Now, Die Later". The perpetrators ought not be allowed to get away with this in our name: for the sake of the children of Iraq, and all the Iraqs to come


    BTW: To claim that I support the torture of children is totally rediculous and insulting and borders on slander.

  • LuckyLucy
    LuckyLucy

    What goes around comes around.

  • dubla
    dubla
    BTW: To claim that I support the torture of children is totally rediculous and insulting and borders on slander.

    who claimed that? no one that i can see. i know l.b. didnt, and all i added to his comments was that there is a perception that the opposers dont seem to care what good comes of this war, which i stand by.

    aa

  • Simon
    Simon

    sorry, I think I mis-read something.

  • Simon
    Simon

    If you accept that this sort of thing is evil and those responsible should be punished, then where does the accountability end?

    • Is it just the person who did it directly?
    • The person who gave the order?
    • The person who's regime it was that it happend under?
    • The people who kept him in power and gave him the means knowing he did things like this?

    Yes, this is a terrible thing and those responsible should be brought to justice. However, more people than just Saddam do things like this and yet, these other regimes or groups are still supported by the USA / the west just as Saddam was until he pulled on his leash too hard for his handlers.

  • dubla
    dubla
    However, more people than just Saddam do things like this

    one at a time.

    aa

  • ThiChi
    ThiChi

    Greetings Simon!

    Simon, to imply that the information is utterly false is baseless. The Aid program is in conjunction with other Nations and UN oversight. I can bring in other sources to verify...but the information is sound and verified.

    This is still a troubled Nation, don’t get me wrong, but to make the claim that it is worse than the Taliban when they were in power is ludicrous.

    This is a very historic time in our world. I believe this just action will put on notice all the Tyrants of the world that their actions are not acceptable.

    A salute to Tony Blair, he has under adversity, took the high moral ground and is truly a modern leader who deserves to be aspired to. The Eagles will win! The Rats will be displaced!

    No peace with the Devil! No supporting Hell on earth!

    Evil; we know it when we see it!

    How do you eat an elephant? One bite at a time!

  • ThiChi
    ThiChi

    ""If you accept that this sort of thing is evil and those responsible should be punished, then where does the accountability end?

    Is it just the person who did it directly?

    The person who gave the order?

    The person who's regime it was that it happend under?

    The people who kept him in power and gave him the means knowing he did things like this?

    Yes, this is a terrible thing and those responsible should be brought to justice. However, more people than just Saddam do things like this and yet, these other regimes or groups are still supported by the USA / the west just as Saddam """

    The Nuremberg Trials answered these questions.....One bite at a time.

  • ThiChi
    ThiChi

    Suspect Depleted Uranium? "Suspect" is a mighty big IF, right?

    The Facts:

    Very little literature directly addresses DU’s health effects. However, extensive material deals with the effects of natural uranium, which is relevant to assessing DU’s effects. Chemically, DU has the same properties as natural uranium. Radiologically, DU emits types of radiation similar to natural uranium’s, but DU is 40% less radioactive than natural uranium. [12]

    Chemical Effects, discussed uranium’s behavior inside the body and the possible health effects from chemical toxicity. As they decay, DU and its decay products emit alpha, beta, and gamma radiation that can cause external and internal exposure to those who handle munitions or encounter DU-contaminated combat equipment. Natural and depleted uranium are much more likely to be chemical than radiation hazards. Recently, the Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry (ATSDR) concluded, "Natural uranium is radioactive but poses little radioactive danger because it gives off very small amounts of radiation." [52] Studies have associated lung cancer reported in uranium miners with exposure to other substances, e.g., radon decay products and tobacco smoke. [53] More specifically, ATSDR found that no human cancers have ever been associated with natural or depleted uranium exposure. [54] To illustrate this point more clearly, ATSDR reported, "…the mass equivalents for natural and depleted uranium for potential radiological effects [that is, the amounts that may pose a radiological health hazard] are 3,600 and 76,500 times higher, respectively, than the occupational exposure limits (short-term exposure) [based on chemical toxicity] recommended by the National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health (NIOSH 1997)." (The citation in the Toxicological Profile for Uranium of 3,600 is in error according to ATSDR. The correct value of 36,000 is obtained from Table 2-9 on page 193 of the Toxicological Profile for Uranium by dividing 7.2 g/m 3 by 0.0002 g/m 3 .) [55]

    A small fraction of the uranium taken into the body deposits in the skeleton, leading to suggestions that uranium’s radioactivity could increase the risk of bone cancer above natural background levels. The low levels of radiation DU emits and the results of scientific studies indicate DU does not cause bone cancer. In fact, scientists have never observed bone cancer in populations exposed to any form of uranium, including enriched uranium, which is much more radioactive than DU. [56] As to other possible health effects, the ATSDR concluded it would not expect any radiological health hazard from exposure to inhaled or ingested natural or depleted uranium because their radioactivity is low. [57]

    In a process called external radiation, depleted uranium outside the body also can expose people. DU found in DU penetrators, heavy armor packages containing DU plates, or transport aircraft containing DU counterweights, emits alpha, beta, and gamma radiation. The Army Environmental Policy Institute (AEPI) reported that a spent DU penetrator could deliver a skin dose of about 0.2 rem per hour from beta and gamma radiation. [58] DU's alpha radiation does not penetrate the dead layer of the skin. AEPI also reported a dose rate of 0.00124 rem per hour between two rows of M829 A2 120mm munitions in storage. [59] Those exposure scenarios involved a few pounds of DU in the spent penetrator up to hundreds to thousands of pounds of DU in stored rounds. For comparison, one pound of cobalt-60 ( 60 Co)—a radioactive material used in cancer treatment sources—delivers a radiation dose of more than 800,000 rem per hour to someone standing 3 feet away. Even one minute’s exposure (13,333 rem) to that source means certain death because the dose is almost 17 times the lethal whole body dose. [60] Fortunately, DU's low-level radiation presents much more easily controlled exposure situations.

  • ThiChi
    ThiChi

    Simon: Ritter is not credible.........

    Is Scott Ritter Credible?
    By Reed Irvine and Cliff Kincaid
    September 12, 2002


    Scott Ritter, the former Marine who resigned his position as UN weapons inspector in Iraq in August 1998, has been seen frequently on television criticizing the Bush administration’s claim that Saddam Hussein is stockpiling weapons of mass destruction and must be overthrown. Ritter is presented or quoted as an authority on this subject. For example, on Labor Day, former CIA director James Woolsey told CNN’s Wolf Blitzer that clearly Iraq has "substantial chemical and bacteriological weapons," Blitzer responded, "Scott Ritter, the former UN weapons inspector, he was there. He doesn’t believe it."

    Scott Ritter was there from the end of the Gulf War until 1998 to help enforce the cease-fire agreement and the UN resolution that prohibited Iraq from possessing or developing weapons of mass destruction. His former boss, Richard Butler, who headed the UN inspection team, recalled later that Ritter resigned because Saddam was not allowing the UN inspectors to do their job. Ritter himself testified that under Saddam’s direct orders, the Iraqi government had lied to the Commission about its weapons stockpiles and that "Iraq presents a clear and present danger to international peace and security."

    Ritter at the time blamed the Clinton administration, saying they feared a confrontation with Iraq. He criticized it for refusing to support the inspection process with a legitimate use of force. He said that since April of ‘98, "we had not been allowed to do these tasks, largely because of pressure placed upon the Special Commission by administration officials."

    Ritter has made an about face. He now says "Iraq has been disarmed fundamentally. Their weapons programs have been eliminated. Iraq poses no threat to any of its neighbors. It does not threaten its region. It does not threaten the United States. It does not threaten the world." This is the line he was taking as a guest on Phil Donahue’s first show on MSNBC last July. Senator James Inhofe, the other guest, charged that what Ritter was saying was the opposite of the testimony he had given the Senate Intelligence Committee. Ritter tried to deny it, but the Senator read from a copy of the transcript, proving that Ritter had just contradicted what he had said under oath. That should have destroyed Ritter’s credibility, but Ritter keeps getting time on TV and being cited as an authority on CNN.

    We hate to say it, but Scott Ritter has apparently sold out. He received $400,000 from an Iraqi-American businessman with close ties to Saddam for the purpose of producing a documentary called "In Shifting Sands." The Weekly Standard described it as a film that "would chronicle the weapons-inspection process" and quoted Ritter as saying it would "de-demonize" Iraq.

    Ritter was welcomed into Iraq in July 2000 to conduct interviews, and he was praised on the official Iraqi Web site. Ritter claims the 90-minute film, which as far as we are know hasn’t aired anywhere, is an attempt to be objective, but he said "The U.S. will definitely not like this film."

    Reed Irvine can be reached at [email protected]

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