The truth about this is far worse and disturbing..JWs and former JWs are accustomed to cognitive dissonance and the truth about this CV19 agenda is terrifying and pure evil, which will make it hard and close to impossible to accept for this group, but here it is:
Is the tide turning against covid vaccines?
by slimboyfat 173 Replies latest social current
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Riley
LoL
The only thing Jehovah Witnesses and ex members are conditioned to do is to believe some kind of special knowledge that been bestowed on them. You have to be a narcissistic half wit to get involved with the religion to begin with.
I didn't realize till the pandemic how widespread this phenomenon was. We literally have people were not even capable of passing high school biology and chemistry going on speaking tours on giving lectures about infectious diseases. It is laughable.
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DATA-DOG
Riley doesn’t understand basic Logic.
Riley says, “You have to be a narcissistic half wit to get involved with the religion to begin with.”
According to Riley:
Only narcissists/half wits even get involved with JWs.
Riley was a JW.
Therefore, Riley is a narcissistic/half wit.
DD 🤔
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DATA-DOG
Can you provide proof of this statement?
“We literally have people (who??) were ( or perhaps, “are” ) not even capable of passing high school biology and chemistry going on speaking tours on giving lectures about infectious diseases.”
Not only is this a blanket statement with no proof, but it totally discounts the intelligence of a person who is literate. It’s like saying an Optometrist should never speak about, or quote the published literature of an Opthalmologist. There are people who are experts in analyzing stats that can read through Pfizer data and explain how the stats are being twisted. They don’t need to be Medical Doctors.
You don’t need to go to College and work your way up the Pfizer food chain or work in the MRNA field in order to read and comprehend basic logic, or see through the inconsistencies and false narratives that have been circulating.
DD
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Earnest
The Telegraph (UK) reported on Saturday that a teenager died after deteriorating 'astonishingly' quickly when she suffered rare heart inflammation linked to the [Covid-19] virus.
Samantha Holden, a consultant paediatric pathologist, gave a cause of death of acute myocarditis associated with Covid-19 infection.
During the inquest, Ms Halliday asked Dr Nicholas Tarmey, a consultant in intensive care medicine at the Queen Alexandra Hospital who treated Jorja, whether her daughter would have suffered a less severe reaction to Covid if she had received the vaccination (the day she died she was due to have her coronavirus vaccine).
Dr Tarmey said: "I really do not know as it's such an unusual situation. We know having a Covid jab reduces risk of severe complication, we think that it trains the immune system.
"I suppose having a Covid jab might reduce the risk of these complications but I am extrapolating that from the benefits we know."
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was a new boy
Patiently waiting till that Blue Graphene ribbon spells out JW.bORG.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1586802585712971777
Testing how freely one can speak ... Found something new in a blood sample yesterday... Has anyone have any idea what this might be??? Blue Graphene ribbon... never seen anything like it...Im assuming this the blood sample of a vaccinated person? Ever seen it in an unvaccinated person?98164this is an unvcd person.. these are found in both cases... in the vcd I see much more damage... but the unvcd are not spared... it's in the eco - system: water + air... -
slimboyfat
Earnest there is no doubt the virus causes heart attacks and strokes, in rare cases even among young people. And it seems entirely plausible that some young people who have died from the virus would not have died if they had the vaccine.
The complicating factor is that vaccines also cause some heart attacks and strokes.
So the key question would seem to be, for young healthy people in particular: is getting a vaccine more likely to prevent you from getting a heart attack or stroke from the virus, or is it more likely to give you a heart attack or stroke as an adverse effect of the vaccine?
Because we hear stories about young people who died from the virus and we also hear stories about young people who died from the vaccine. What we need is good reliable data.
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Vidqun
Earnest, the case mentioned by the "Telegraph" is definitely an exception to the rule. In a study of almost 200,000 unvaccinated people in Israel, there was no increased risk of myocarditis/pericarditis after infection with Covid-19. That means Covid-19 infection does not cause myocarditis/pericarditis. What has been proved, is that the latter is a side-effect of m-RNA gene therapy. Explanation could be that the teenager might have been in close contact with those that are vaccinated, constantly shedding "spike protein," which does cause myocarditis/pericarditis.
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Earnest
Vidqun : That means Covid-19 infection does not cause myocarditis/pericarditis.
That is an impressive study and does conclude "there is no increase in the incidence of myocarditis and pericarditis in COVID-19 recovered patients compared to uninfected matched controls." However, that does not mean that Covid-19 infection does not cause myocarditis/pericarditis. Why? The report says :
It has recently been reported that the incidence of myocarditis and pericarditis is increased in COVID-19 patients during the acute illness. However; whether or not myocarditis and pericarditis after the recovery period are a part of the long COVID-19 syndrome is yet unknown. Herein, we studied the incidence of myocarditis and pericarditis in a large cohort of COVID-19 patients after recovering from the acute infection.
If we consider the incidence of myocarditis and pericarditis during acute COVID-19 illness the results are different. The report referred to above in the New England Journal of Medicine concludes :
The vaccine [BNT162b2 mRNA] was associated with an excess risk of myocarditis (1 to 5 events per 100,000 persons). The risk of this potentially serious adverse event [11.0 events per 100,000 persons] and of many other serious adverse events [pericarditis, arrhythmia, deep-vein thrombosis, pulmonary embolism, myocardial infarction, intracranial hemorrhage, and thrombocytopenia] was substantially increased after SARS-CoV-2 infection.
See this image for risk ratios for adverse events after vaccination and COVID-19 infection.
So, both the vaccine and COVID-19 increase the risk of myocarditis. COVID-19 also increases the risk of pericarditis and other serious disease. I do agree that the case mentioned by the "Telegraph" is an exception to the rule and that most young, healthy people who contract Covid-19 do not suffer serious adverse events.
