"...When our own thoughts are forbidden, when our questions are not allowed and our doubts are punished; when contacts & friendships outside of the organisation are censored, we are being abused for an end that never justifies its means. When our heart aches knowing we have made friendships and secret attachments that will be forever forbidden if we leave, we are in danger. When we consider staying in a group because we cannot bear the loss, disappointment and sorrow our leaving will cause for ourselves and those we have come to love, we are in a cult."----Deborah Layton, Jonestown survivor. (from the book: Seductive Poison, page 299. Anchor Books, New York, 1998)
Jonestown Survivor Quote
by cappytan 14 Replies latest jw friends
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Driving Force
Thats deeply moving. I have to print that on a visiting card and on the other side of the card links to Apostate sites and give them to every JW I meet.
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Witness My Fury
It's one of my favourite quotes and does need repeating often.
Here's the fuller quote:
When your own thoughts are forbidden, when your questions are not allowed and our doubts are punished, when contacts with friendships outside of the organization are censored, we are being abused for the ends never justify the means. When our heart aches knowing we have made friendships and secret attachments that will be forever forbidden if we leave, we are in danger. When we consider staying in a group because we cannot bear the loss, disappointment and sorrow our leaving will cause for ourselves and those we have come to love, we are in a cult… If there is any lesson to be learned it is that an ideal can never be brought about by fear, abuse, and the threat of retribution. When family and friends are used as a weapon in order to force us to stay in an organization, something has gone terribly wrong.”(page 299)
nicked from: http://religiouscultsinfo.com/2010/07/%E2%80%9Cseductive-poison%E2%80%9D-by-deborah-layton-voice-of-a-survivor/
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Phizzy
When we first stopped going at all to the K.H, I left that quote lying on a table, Mrs Phizzy was worried about the flack we were likely to get from my JW family very soon, and said :
" You shouldn't leave that quote about JW's lying around "
I then pointed out to her that at the bottom of the page was an attribution to Deborah Layton, Jones Town survivor.
It gave me a laugh though, and as I said to Mrs Phizzy, "What does that say about JW's, that you thought it was about them ?"
Let's Oubreview: ITS A CULT !
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karter
"If you want to find out who rules over you find out who you cannot criticize"
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Slidin Fast
Wow, just Wow. I haven't come across that before. Thanks Cap. -
krejames
Wow. Thanks for the post -
WingCommander
Cappytan & karter: I use that Jonestown and Voltaire quotes alot. Very fitting to the JW paradigm. -
Saintbertholdt
Here's the audio recording where Jim Jones argued for the drinking of the Cyanide cool-aid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkookcrAnSE
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Beth Sarim
'' We all must be ready to obey any instructions we receive whether or not they seem strategic from a human standpoint or not''.
I really think the Borg and it's ways are not far off from that of Jonestown, just a hop skip and jump from Jonestown.