Whatever Happened to Those who returned to JEHOVAH

by raymond frantz 32 Replies latest watchtower scandals

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  LongHairGal

  CAREFUL:

  Regarding this DF’d sister who returned so she can see her family but who stopped attending because she doesn’t want to deal with the intrusiveness: is anybody surprised?

  This no boundaries thing has got to be the most repulsive thing about the Witness religion and it’s too bad they don’t adjust their policies about this.. I’m sure well over half of people who stay away is because of this - in addition to their crap man-made teachings.

  I walked away almost 24 years ago and this was my primary reason after the 1995 Generation thing.. I was done forever with their garbage.. Long ago I might have tolerated this nonsense but certainly not now.

  Besides, they wouldn’t want somebody like me now because I’m older and wiser and my every other phrase would be ‘that’s none of your business’ in addition to ‘No’ when asked by deadbeats for $.. This would pose a problem for the Users and busybodies there.😉
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  KerryKing

  Duran, like I said before, I don't know anything for sure. This is a journey and it's individual to each one of us.

  What I think now is not what I believed a year or so ago.

  Did Jesus really exist? That's for you to find out and decide for yourself, nobody here can do that for you.

  I do think if people lived by 'Love your neighbour as yourself ', and actually did know and love themselves truly and deeply first, this world would be transformed.

  But that's just my small opinion.
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  LV101

  Longy - love 'deadbeat' and I've had to work on spewing 'loser' and 'thug' from my vocabulary. Your replies/phrases are decent. Afraid my vernacular would not even be close!
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  LongHairGal

  LV101:

  Thank you for saying that.

  Some people on the forum (either current or ex-Witnesses) might resent me for using the term ‘deadbeat’ and me saying I don’t want to give JWs who didn’t work $ or charity.. This bothers them so they will downvote my post. But, they aren’t courageous enough to put into words why.. They either don’t understand or care that I got criticized/shunned by Witnesses because I worked OR they imagine they are ‘owed’ something.. Well, not by me they’re not.

  Who did they work or volunteer for?? The religion, that’s who. Go ask them.

  My philosophy is that you don’t get to criticize somebody for working a REAL job instead of being in the ministry - and then when things don’t work out for you imagine you are going to ask that same person for money.. It doesn’t work that way, IMO.
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  Duran

  [2 Thessalonians 3: 7 For you yourselves know how you should imitate us, because we did not behave in a disorderly way among you, 8 nor did we eat anyone’s food free. On the contrary, by labor and toil we were working night and day so as not to impose an expensive burden on any one of you. 9 Not that we do not have authority, but we wanted to offer ourselves as an example for you to imitate. 10 In fact, when we were with you, we used to give you this order: “If anyone does not want to work, neither let him eat.”]

  [Proverbs 14:23 There is benefit in every kind of hard work, But mere talk leads to want.
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  LV101

  Longy -- there's some 'entitled' members in religion (perhaps more in jw.com) and can't tell you how many times I heard this or that bro/sista doesn't share from the pro JW deadbeats. It's sad -- no one wishes anyone going hungry/cold but knowing the facts and the deadbeat landscape -- oh my. They seem to swarm in JWism since poverty is encouraged. Org must count on the 'deadbeats' recruiting older ones with big pensions/estates for the corp. to seize at their demise. I can't tell you how many older couples around who've no children thus perfect candidates. They clearly don't care about children and disadvantaged - training for work.

  I'll have to pay attn. to downvotes! I vote your posts re/'deadbeats' be read from the platform in all halls.😂 I've heard about the 'deadbeats' in the mainstream religions, also. Ask any business lawyer/litigator but I don't think they come close.

  Unfortunately, many have been raised to skate in life and not work hard. I always thought if your last name wasn't Rockefeller ya work or ya don't eat.
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  LongHairGal

  LV101:

  Thanks again for telling the truth of what really goes on in the Jehovah’s Witness congregations. They are steeped in a culture of poverty. Too many have wrong attitudes about work and personal responsibility. There was terrible treatment of people like me who worked at a REAL job. Thankfully, I ignored them.

  The world would be shocked if they knew the level of deadbeat-ism and predatory behavior there.. As somebody raised Roman Catholic, I was always appalled by it.

  Can you imagine what would happen if I were stupid enough to show my face in the JW religion now after being happily Out many years?? People who hardly worked and delusional idiots would make their way over to me to either ask for handouts or make nosy inquiries about my business!😳

  I would have to be out of my mind to tolerate this behavior at this point in my life.
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  Beth Sarim

  LHG;

  I will smash ,,,,your like button.

  
  
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  buzkid

  Well, let me tell you. The situation is that some are friendly now and others don't go near a DF person even to commend them for attending and wouldn't dream of doing it. So there's a big spectrum of attitudes at the Kingdom Hall.
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  Beth Sarim

  Sometimes you wonder about the KH.

  That there is more life in a large farm storage shed. Or in some quanset,,,, or small airplane hangar.