Earth as Creater

by Satanus 15 Replies latest jw friends

  • Satanus
    Satanus

    Consider earth as one of the sources for the force that drives evolution. This hypothesis would of necessity require an infintesimally small mote of intelligence or consciousness at the atomic level, and below that, if there was something lower.

    Atomic inteligence would explain why atomic hydrogen, the lowest form of known matter in the universe, forms itself into into clouds, that are called nebulae. Nebulae, in turn give birth to stars.

    The sum total of the intelligence or consciousness that concentrated itself as a result of the formation of the earth, would then form the lowest new life form, either on the earths surface of in it's bowells. Geologists have found bacterias hundreds of feet below the surface. While this fact doesn't prove that they originated there, it is interesting that they are there in the first place.

    Whatever was the lowest and original life form, along with it's own scintilla of intelligence arising from it's atoms, would additionally have the help of earth and other forces. These could have taken the forms of electromagnetic fields, ley lines, solar radiation, scalar fields, acids, bases and heat. Included in these sources of stimulation are the vibrations or spectrums that give them form.

    If such a thing as spirit exists, then it may have had a hand as well, especially w regard to humans. It may or may not have been involved in the lower forms, that includes animals. If it wasn't then all of nature, animals included, may be connected to the earth, which produced them. If that were so, then they may be giving feedback to their creator.

    This feedback would be the eyes and ears for the earth, telling it how it's experiments going. Taking a look at how the large earth systems impact civilization w the possibility that the earth is guiding them gives some interesting ideas.

    Plate tectonics are driven buy convection lava/magma currents deep in the earth. Plate tectonics, in turn, largely control the shape of the continents. The continental shapes determine the way that the large ocean currents flow. The ocean currents have a large control the world's directional winds, at least in the lower atmosphere. The directions of the prevailing winds determine, to a large degree, the weather of the continents, though mountain ranges, and land masses also play on the winds. Mountains extract moisture as they force air currents to rise. Land masses force air masses to rise as the land warms.

    These are all factors that control the growth of crops and game movement, and hence the migrations of people. If conditions are tough, they keep moving and culture generally has a harder time to develop. Societies are generally harsh, patriarchal. When the land is fertile, people settle down, get comfortable and have the time to self explore and recreate. They tend to be more liberal, w women sharing more of the power.

    Quite a few science articles that i read, have stated that at about 10,000 bc, what are now large deserts in america, north and central africa, asia, and the middle east were lush jungles and grasses. Some sociologists conclude that life was good, at this time, for humans. Some of them think that this is where the paradise traditions originated. Further, they think that desertification caused a shortage of resources, which led to competiton, warfare and fragmentation of societies then existing. Did desertification forces originate from solar effects, the clarification of outer space or from the earth?

    So, watchou think of my grand theory?

    SS

  • Robdar
    Robdar

    SS,

    I find your grand theory fascinating. Interesting ideas.

    Robyn

  • Francois
    Francois

    Not bad. Not bad at all. How come you just don't make the molecules "smart" sort of pre-programmed so that they do their thing when it's due? Like you wouldn't want to evolve an oxygen-breathing animal until there was sufficient oxygen in the atmosphere for it to breathe, and like that.

    francois

  • Satanus
    Satanus

    Aww rob, you're so nice

    SS

  • Satanus
    Satanus

    Francois

    How come you just don't make the molecules "smart" sort of pre-programmed so that they do their thing when it's due?

    Well, they could be, at some stages, though i'm not sure of the context you have in mind. I am exploring the idea of the earth as a sort of guiding principle, even though it's intelligence may be lower than ours, as humans. But, while our bodies are without a doubt earth produced, as their composition testifies, i theorise that we had intervention from another source, possibly spirit.

    If there is atomic intelligence, then molecular intelligence would be more. But there are wierd goings on that are manifested during, for example, the developement of the brain of a fetus. The way i remember it, a schafolding is built first, then neurons, or cells that become neurons travel up these schafoldings at the critically important times to critically important positions. Mistakes in this process results in deformities like spina bifida. Of course this is inside of a body that is inside of another body, so it's not the same as processes on earth's surface, but there is some overarching guidance.

    If a molecile was preprogramed, who programed it? The earth, the atomic group of which it is made up, or some other external power? In my theory, i think these are all possibilities, though the earth continues it's influences at and above the molecular level, working w whatever intelligence a molecule has.

    SS

  • IronGland
    IronGland
    Atomic inteligence would explain why atomic hydrogen, the lowest form of known matter in the universe, forms itself into into clouds, that are called nebulae. Nebulae, in turn give birth to stars.

    Wouldn't gravity also explain it?

  • Satanus
    Satanus

    Yes, star birth in nebulae is because of gravity. As well as nebulae of hydrogen, the atoms are floating around individually throughout the universe. Hydrogen is the lightest element. In their formation into clouds, i doubt very much that gravity has any play.

    SS

  • Abaddon
    Abaddon
    If there is atomic intelligence

    Mmm. IF being the operative word. NOT PROVEN and UNLIKELY GIVEN WHAT WE NOW KNOW being the applicable comments. To me it seems like man creating god in his own image, which is neither original wise or neccesary.

  • SYN
    SYN

    Ah yes, the good old Gaia theory. An interesting write-up on the subject!

  • greven
    greven

    Gaia Theory is an interesting framework to look upon this world: seeing it as one biological entity with biospheres as 'organs'. It does provide an interesting look on homeostasis, however you should leave certain things out of the mix. Like intelligence or consciousness at the atomic level. That is bull.

    Atomic inteligence would explain why atomic hydrogen, the lowest form of known matter in the universe, forms itself into into clouds, that are called nebulae.

    You mean like colonies? So far these things can be adequately explained by gravity and forces on the atomic level. no need for intelligence which makes it more commplex then needed. (Occam's Razor)

    The sum total of the intelligence or consciousness that concentrated itself as a result of the formation of the earth, would then form the lowest new life form, either on the earths surface of in it's bowells. Geologists have found bacterias hundreds of feet below the surface. While this fact doesn't prove that they originated there, it is interesting that they are there in the first place.

    If there is intelligence on the (sub-)atomic level, then this is as much concentrated on earth as on any other planet.

    Whatever was the lowest and original life form, along with it's own scintilla of intelligence arising from it's atoms, would additionally have the help of earth and other forces. These could have taken the forms of electromagnetic fields, ley lines, solar radiation, scalar fields, acids, bases and heat. Included in these sources of stimulation are the vibrations or spectrums that give them form.

    Leylines? The idea of leylines arose by linking a number of ancient landmarks by a series of straight lines, and concluding they are ancient trade routes. These 'traderoutes' it is claimed are sources of mystical power and energy have become very popular among New Agers and other occultists, attracting not only curious New Agers but also aliens in their UFOs and locals with their dowsing rods.

    Interesting read your theory, but you should leave some bits....

    Greven

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